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Re: Rd. 5 - Pre Game Thread - Blues V Dockers - PassIt2Carrots - 04-20-2016
Yup I'm expecting them to really punish us. We may be lucky to score 5 goals.
Re: Rd. 5 - Pre Game Thread - Blues V Dockers - Thryleon - 04-21-2016
Maybe im just an optimist but I reckon we can beat Freo.
We traditionally play well out west and Hawthorn seem to have a good way with these sides from the West. We are a poor mans hawthorn at the minute, so we might actually do better than expected and of the two of us, I would think that we were tracking better than Freo in terms of knowing what we are trying to do, we just stuff it up every so often and in time should execute things better.
Our biggest concern are their smalls imho. Small forwards have been cutting us up for a long time, and I reckon that Walters and Ballantyne will cause us more grief than any of their talls.
Re: Rd. 5 - Pre Game Thread - Blues V Dockers - crashlander - 04-21-2016
(04-21-2016, 12:04 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Maybe im just an optimist but I reckon we can beat Freo.Indeed. Their small forwards usually have a picnic against us.
We traditionally play well out west and Hawthorn seem to have a good way with these sides from the West. We are a poor mans hawthorn at the minute, so we might actually do better than expected and of the two of us, I would think that we were tracking better than Freo in terms of knowing what we are trying to do, we just stuff it up every so often and in time should execute things better.
Our biggest concern are their smalls imho. Small forwards have been cutting us up for a long time, and I reckon that Walters and Ballantyne will cause us more grief than any of their talls.
I would like to see OURS have a decent game.
Re: Rd. 5 - Pre Game Thread - Blues V Dockers - LP - 04-21-2016
Gibbs best games have been off the HBF on larger opponents like Goodes or Darling.
But that is part of our problem, we have too many blokes who play their best football in defense where they do not have to be in the focus of an opponent. Further most of our better defenders lack pace, they cannot deal with the likes of Freo's small forwards.
As I see it, blokes like Gibbs, Buckley and Walker are now left competing for the same role. Walker is close to the end, Gibbs struggles with agility and Buckley is as yet unproven. In the last week Plowman has shown he makes at least one of them redundant as he plays small and tall, is mobile, agile and young. Their skin is probably saved by the fact that Simmo is close to the end.
Re: Rd. 5 - Pre Game Thread - Blues V Dockers - ItsOurTime - 04-21-2016
Reckon the last 3/4 of 2014 was Gibbs' best - in the guts and forward rather than following.
Re: Rd. 5 - Pre Game Thread - Blues V Dockers - PaulP - 04-21-2016
(04-20-2016, 11:31 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:They have had a tough run having played the Dogs, Suns, Eagles and North. Expect Freo to smash us and then there will be a lot of pressure for us to beat Essendon.
I agree that Freo will win easily. Don't know about the pressure to beat Essendon - from whom ? Erudite, knowledgeable and sensible CFC supporters know that Essendon's off season recruiting was about short term survival / competitiveness. As you yourself have stated, their list is better than ours at the moment.
No pressure from me.
Re: Rd. 5 - Pre Game Thread - Blues V Dockers - LP - 04-21-2016
(04-21-2016, 01:52 AM)ItsOurTime link Wrote:Reckon the last 3/4 of 2014 was Gibbs' best - in the guts and forward rather than following.
Agree that Gibbs peak performance was statistically better on-ball, but I am not sure that is where he was consistent, and I wouldn't necessarily think peak statistical performance means best football. A lot of those high ranking games were mid-field shootouts. But that 2014 game on Goodes is a prime example, not a midfield shootout, he stopped a significant opponent and won plenty of football in the process.
Did MMs stop start game plan suit Gibbs better?
Re: Rd. 5 - Pre Game Thread - Blues V Dockers - madbluboy - 04-21-2016
The media, they have left us alone so far this year but lose to the bombers and all of a sudden we'll be reading about us not being able to win a single game.
Re: Rd. 5 - Pre Game Thread - Blues V Dockers - LP - 04-21-2016
(04-21-2016, 02:00 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:The media, they have left us alone so far this year but lose to the bombers and all of a sudden we'll be reading about us not being able to win a single game.
This is certainly the case, that some of the media are ignoring us, but only some as others are laying the ground work now. I don't understand why hardcore supporters cannot see this coming. By seasons end if we lose to teams like EFC we are the ones in the hot-seat not EFC, Freo, Collingwood or Nthmond.
I'm worried about the behavior of the entrenched board members in that circumstance. They have a history of finger-pointing, picking on the little guy to save themselves, and they won't find anyone littler in the AFL system at that high level than Bolton.
It will be a pity if we cannot get our list sorted to win a few games, but if we don't win at least one in the coming weeks we may not win at all! Ultimately that will hurt memberships, sponsorships, financially and psychologically.
We are not in line for the same sorts of concessions that GWS or GC got off the AFL, but we are in the same position they found themselves in a few years back.
Re: Rd. 5 - Pre Game Thread - Blues V Dockers - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-21-2016
(04-21-2016, 02:04 AM)LP link Wrote:This is certainly the case, that some of the media are ignoring us, but only some as others are laying the ground work now. I don't understand why hardcore supporters cannot see this coming. By seasons end if we lose to teams like EFC we are the ones in the hot-seat not EFC, Freo, Collingwood or Nthmond.
I'm worried about the behavior of the entrenched board members in that circumstance. They have a history of finger-pointing, picking on the little guy to save themselves, and they won't find anyone littler in the AFL system at that high level than Bolton.
It will be a pity if we cannot get our list sorted to win a few games, but if we don't win at least one in the coming weeks we may not win at all! Ultimately that will hurt memberships, sponsorships, financially and psychologically.
We are not in line for the same sorts of concessions that GWS or GC got off the AFL, but we are in the same position they found themselves in a few years back.
Look we need to win a game or two for the reasons you have stated and if we lose to EFC then the feral masses will want the coach's head but those with some understanding of our position know the reality
of where we are at and that 2016 is not about wins but development and finding players for our next core group.
I am sure we can sneak a couple of wins but I wont be putting my house on it at this stage...the coach is on the right track and its about the journey and not the destination at this stage..