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Re: Culture - Mantis - 09-16-2015
(09-16-2015, 11:46 AM)Professer E link Wrote:Recruit loser players and establish a losing culture.
Recruit competitive, win at all cost types and establish a winning culture.
Sounds too simple to actually work. ;D
Re: Culture - Gointocarlton - 09-16-2015
(09-16-2015, 11:46 AM)Professer E link Wrote:Recruit loser players and establish a losing culture.Thats all well and good, but if the latter turn out to be DH's who don't to the line, its time to say adios amigos.
Recruit competitive, win at all cost types and establish a winning culture.
Re: Culture - PassIt2Carrots - 09-16-2015
(09-16-2015, 11:53 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Thats all well and good, but if the latter turn out to be DH's who don't to the line, its time to say adios amigos.
I would say players with a history of not putting their body on the line, tackling and taking one for the team are far more damaging to any culture and certainly not towing the line. Culture starts on field, trying to correct it by punishing someone for off field misdemeanors, especially when they provide great culture on field is just dumb.
Re: Culture - Professer E - 09-16-2015
100% carrots. Every successful side has a few "characters" with questionable off field attitude/demeanour/activities...its what happens on the field that counts. They just need to check the right boxes in regards topreparation and performance.
Just check out the recently successful Geelong, Hawks and Pies sides... they had more than a few "characters".
Re: Culture - JonHenry - 09-16-2015
If we kicked out the players with off field issues and any so called "dickheads" in the 70's and 80's we would be short 3 or 4 flags
Re: Culture - madbluboy - 09-16-2015
Just remember Robinson was sacked for lying, we let him get away with numerous off field incidents.
Re: Culture - ItsOurTime - 09-16-2015
(09-16-2015, 11:06 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:I would rather better players than both of them who aren't dickheads.
True but when we have to choose, we go with the wrong ones.
Re: Culture - Gointocarlton - 09-17-2015
(09-16-2015, 08:50 PM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:I would say players with a history of not putting their body on the line, tackling and taking one for the team are far more damaging to any culture and certainly not towing the line. Culture starts on field, trying to correct it by punishing someone for off field misdemeanors, especially when they provide great culture on field is just dumb.So by the above definition, Jeffy was let go for all the right reasons as he is a serial ducker who sleeps with the lights on.
Re: Culture - thrunthrublu - 09-17-2015
(09-14-2015, 12:08 PM)MosquitoFleet link Wrote:Carltons cultural problem is driven by its constitution
When you have board directors that have a guaranteed 12 years of sitting on the board things turn too slowly. ..we have directors like gleeson who are still on the board since pagans days...
this ^
the stench will never go away unless you get rid of the excrement. Andrew Mckay included.
Re: Culture - PassIt2Carrots - 09-17-2015
(09-17-2015, 12:22 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:So by the above definition, Jeffy was let go for all the right reasons as he is a serial ducker who sleeps with the lights on.
Under Mick he became this definitely, was far from under the previous regime.