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Re: Hawthorn v Carlton -Post Match thread - Brettie - 09-05-2015
Like cookie, I too was in the MCC, absolutely nothing atmosphere as was to be expected. Most people around us (and there weren't many) were engaged in conversation more so than watching the predictable result unfold. No record result today thankfully.
I reckon the honeymoon period is well and truly over for Cameron Wood. Was admirable last year, but apart from a couple of games this year, has largely stunk it up, with tonight being a glaring example. Friggin' hopeless.
Bell's last quarter was good, but the rest of the game his kicking was unadulterated rubbish. Would trade in a heartbeat if Brisbane offered the right price.
I counted 3 first-half Hawthorn goals as a direct result of Simmo, hence he got swapped out of defence with Holman. Worst left-footer in the AFL by a fair way is our Kade.
Yes, Watson was fair tonight, but come on, his time has come and gone, he doesn't work hard enough and I'm fairly sure his AFL career ended tonight, no matter what performance he produced.
Don't get me started on Menzel, he's cooked as he produced yet another garbage display. Geez, has he gone from the champ he was last year, to the deadset chump he's turned into this year. Wouldn't lose a minute's sleep if he got traded.
Carrots ended his career admirably, whilst Ellard showed he'd made the right decision to call time on his career also.
Happy with the effort tonight to be honest, but FMD we're our own worst enemy a lot of the time.
Re: Hawthorn v Carlton -Post Match thread - Peter Brady - 09-05-2015
Could the reason Matthew Watson only starts to show some form in the last few games of the season be due to the fact that he only gets to play the last few games of the season? ;D
Re: Hawthorn v Carlton -Post Match thread - PassIt2Carrots - 09-05-2015
(09-05-2015, 09:05 PM)Peter Brady link Wrote:Could the reason Matthew Watson only starts to show some form in the last few games of the season be due to the fact that he only gets to play the last few games of the season? ;D
That's some pretty full on logic there PB!
When you look at how much River Rat detests him and River Rat actually works with him it's hard to see him getting anywhere near his best under this current regime. Just bereft of confidence, hopefully they clear the place out and Watto gets a fresh start under a coaching team that believe in him.
Re: Hawthorn v Carlton -Post Match thread - cookie2 - 09-05-2015
@Brettie
Mate, the last line of your post sums it up perfectly!
Re: Hawthorn v Carlton -Post Match thread - kruddler - 09-05-2015
(09-05-2015, 09:05 PM)Peter Brady link Wrote:Could the reason Matthew Watson only starts to show some form in the last few games of the season be due to the fact that he only gets to play the last few games of the season? ;D
It is only the LAST game of the season, not the last few.
In his 3 other games this year he was next to useless. Yesterday he was adequate in a nothing game.
Re: Hawthorn v Carlton -Post Match thread - Thryleon - 09-05-2015
I don't know why anyone is campaigning for Watson. He has shown marginal improvement in five years at the club and was not very good to begin with.
Better players than him have failed to forge a successful career.
He has played 20 AFL games and not once has he looked like making it in a serious way. If he survives it's because we have minimal options.
Re: Hawthorn v Carlton -Post Match thread - RiverRat - 09-06-2015
(09-05-2015, 09:27 PM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:When you look at how much River Rat detests him and River Rat actually works with him it's hard to see him getting anywhere near his best under this current regime. Just bereft of confidence, hopefully they clear the place out and Watto gets a fresh start under a coaching team that believe in him.
1. I have never said that I detest him or hate him or anything similar - I have merely pointed out his limitations as an AFL and VFL player - In actual fact, I have repeatedly commented (this year) that I believe he has made improvements in his running and work rate - I simply believe that those improvements fall under the heading of "too little too late" - 5 years is a long time to be clogging the list.
2. I have never worked with him or even spoken with him
3. I suspect we have seen the best he has to offer - or close enough to it
4. Not just bereft of confidence
5. As for a coaching team that believes in him, I doubt that we would be wanting a coaching team that was so unrealistic in its beliefs.
Re: Hawthorn v Carlton -Post Match thread - PassIt2Carrots - 09-06-2015
Sorry about point 2, I didn't realise that was the case. Detest may be a strong word but you do dislike him no doubt.
Re: Hawthorn v Carlton -Post Match thread - RiverRat - 09-06-2015
(09-06-2015, 12:17 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:Sorry about point 2, I didn't realise that was the case. Detest may be a strong word but you do dislike him no doubt.
I reiterate point 1.
I have no reason to dislike him; I don't know him; he might be a really good guy.
I just don't believe he is up to the standard.
Re: pM - LordLucifer - 09-06-2015
(09-05-2015, 09:25 AM)laj link Wrote:Watson's played pretty well for 2 1/2 of his 3 games since returning (no forward would've got a touch during the 2nd half against GWS). Add that to his 4 goals last game last year and, while nothing great, showing he belongs at least since being moved up forward. He got his chance and took it.
Watson has to go - end of story !!!!