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Re: Carlton Beat Melbourne (Post Game Waffle) - crashlander - 08-23-2015
(08-23-2015, 08:16 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:We dropped off when Murphy and Jameson went off.I think we had dropped off our intensity before that, but they hadn't managed to do anything until Murphy and Jamo went off. Our on-field losses galvanized them.
In the end, it was pretty brave to come out on top as we did.
However, how bad are Melbourne? We had the Northern Blues on the park and they simply capitulated. If I were a Melbourne supporter, I would never come back from the snow. They were simply unprofessional and show minimal improvement for all the time Paul Roos has put into them. Far from being the Messiah, they looked to have worse skills than ours. I didn't think that was possible.
Re: Carlton Beat Melbourne (Post Game Waffle) - IvanAwfulbigone - 08-23-2015
Take that Roos, you Carlton hater.
Anyone else notice the subtle shift in the 50/50 umpiring decisions in the third quarter which coincided with their run-on?
Quite like the way Jaksch is backing himself more and flying for marks. I reckon his confidence is slowly building.
Buckley should now consider himself a 'required' member of our best 22. Hoping this time next year that BB, Whiley, Holman, and the Ciaran's are in the same boat.
Re: Carlton Beat Melbourne (Post Game Waffle) - Mantis - 08-23-2015
I laugh at the commentators today. They actually believe Melbourne is a better club to coach than our side. They apparently have more potential stars and have done better in the last few years of drafting than we have. Melbourne IMO will not see a flag for the next 10 years. They are just a group of players that play when they want. Roos has been a waste of money to the club. He can hand the club over to their new coach at the end of 2016. Then the new coach will see what a troubled mob they are. Could you imagine them without their stars. We had no Judd, Gibbs, Levi, Thomas. Then we dropped Yarran and Henderson. Lost Murphy, Jamo and Kreuzer during the game. All this after losing Garlett, Betts, Waite our main scorers over the last few years and Robinson. Lets see them play with talents like this missing from their squad. They are really bad. The Bulldogs have created a good list. The Dees haven't. Not yet. Watts by the way will never be an AFL talent. Never.
Re: Carlton Beat Melbourne (Post Game Waffle) - crashlander - 08-23-2015
(08-23-2015, 11:20 AM)IvanAwfulbigone link Wrote:Take that Roos, you Carlton hater.He certainly does seem to hate us. He was a rabid Carlton supporter as a kid, but knew he was going to be playing for the Lions even in the Little League (I saw him play against us then, which dates me somewhat. ;D ;D). However, in the years since he hasn't had a nice word or deed for us. I am quite happy to give him more headaches.
To be honest, unless they improve a lot next year, Roos will be considered almost as large a failure at Melbourne as Malthouse proved to be for us. VFL sides play better than that: we should know as ours was on the field.
(08-23-2015, 11:20 AM)IvanAwfulbigone link Wrote:Anyone else notice the subtle shift in the 50/50 umpiring decisions in the third quarter which coincided with their run-on?I don't think it was too subtle. It was pretty ordinary. I guess they felt they had to even up the frees. But we were certainly on the receiving end of some shockers in the 3rd quarter.
(08-23-2015, 11:20 AM)IvanAwfulbigone link Wrote:Quite like the way Jaksch is backing himself more and flying for marks. I reckon his confidence is slowly building.The 2 newish Irishmen should. They have looked good. Boekhorst has plenty to work on, but he is, at least, now looking like he actually has a future. Our defence could be pretty quick next year, if they can stay in one piece.
Buckley should now consider himself a 'required' member of our best 22. Hoping this time next year that BB, Whiley, Holman, and the Ciaran's are in the same boat.
Re: Carlton Beat Melbourne (Post Game Waffle) - cimm1979 - 08-23-2015
(08-23-2015, 11:35 AM)Mantis link Wrote:I laugh at the commentators today. They actually believe Melbourne is a better club to coach than our side. They apparently have more potential stars and have done better in the last few years of drafting than we have. Melbourne IMO will not see a flag for the next 10 years. They are just a group of players that play when they want. Roos has been a waste of money to the club. He can hand the club over to their new coach at the end of 2016. Then the new coach will see what a troubled mob they are. Could you imagine them without their stars. We had no Judd, Gibbs, Levi, Thomas. Then we dropped Yarran and Henderson. Lost Murphy, Jamo and Kreuzer during the game. All this after losing Garlett, Betts, Waite our main scorers over the last few years and Robinson. Lets see them play with talents like this missing from their squad. They are really bad. The Bulldogs have created a good list. The Dees haven't. Not yet. Watts by the way will never be an AFL talent. Never.
That effort by them today was disgraceful.
Roos should be having massive heat brought on him but ..........crickets .
Re: Carlton Beat Melbourne (Post Game Waffle) - Brettie - 08-23-2015
Well, certainly didn't see that coming!
Hopefully we saw Patty Cripps wrap up the Rising Star award today. I'm as excited about him every ounce as much as I was whenever Juddy had the ball in his hands. In Cripps we've got ourselves a once in a generation player.......we'll be talking about this bloke years after he's retired. He clearly bleeds Navy Blue and the fans have embraced him like no other youngster I've seen forever. I'd love to know what Cripps thinks about Henderson's decision.
Like a couple of others have said, I don't see the love at all for Jaksch. Give him a couple of years and yep, he may be everything we hoped we were getting, but right now - nup, not for me. Whiley, on the other hand, I thought was more than serviceable
Really happy for Boekhorst, thought he was terrific today. That kick to Cripps in the last was right in front of us and it was Diesel-esque it was that good.
Matty Kreuzer.....FFS re-sign him already! Walker as a key forward....who would've thunk it!? What do we do we Menzel? Either injured or under-performing all year....*sigh*
Loved Buckley's game, loved Bell's game, loved Tuohy's game. Happy for one last win this year, not really all that enamoured with the prospect of another wooden spoon, so hopefully today means we can avert that.
Re: Carlton Beat Melbourne (Post Game Waffle) - Brettie - 08-23-2015
(08-23-2015, 11:20 AM)IvanAwfulbigone link Wrote:Anyone else notice the subtle shift in the 50/50 umpiring decisions in the third quarter which coincided with their run-on?
There was absolutely nothing subtle about it, was bordering on cheating to be honest.
Re: Carlton Beat Melbourne (Post Game Waffle) - Micky0 - 08-23-2015
(08-23-2015, 11:48 AM)Brettie link Wrote:There was absolutely nothing subtle about it, was bordering on cheating to be honest.It was terrible.
Re: Carlton Beat Melbourne (Post Game Waffle) - madbluboy - 08-23-2015
Thought Tutt played well.
Re: Carlton Beat Melbourne (Post Game Waffle) - Vivian - 08-23-2015
Must confess the commentators didn't bother me at all today. No histrionics and mostly calm. Melbourne have some good players but they were awful, especially in defence. Its all very well to have Hogan clunking the ball but if you still need Jones the old war horse to win the ball regularly then all the forwards in the world aren't going to be much use.
Still, a win is a fine thing, and it gives the team a good boost. 3 players got to enjoy their first Carlton win, so there was a glimps of the future today. We played a more mature style, especially for the first half with better executed kicks down the wings, rather than mad rushes out of half back. We slipped away badly in the third, but managed to switch into a more lock down game to get the win. Very encouraging.
Best players were Kruezer by a big margin, followed by Cripps, Bell, Jamo, Tuohy and Boekhorst. Buckly got into the game in the second half as did KJ and Docherty. And walker has got some fitness back and played in front, and got rewarded. Some of the newbies showed good endeavour, whiley kept making contests as did Tutt.
We got the fumbles badly in the second half, and losing murphy took out our best ball user. Hope its nothing too serious. Guess playing Watson was a ploy to trade him for a can of beans, and the goal he snaffled will make it a big can.
Off season needs massive investment in skills. We have very few 'one touch' players and only the likes of cripps are skilled and powerful enough to take the second and better option.