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Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - madbluboy - 05-29-2015
(05-29-2015, 01:38 PM)Gags10 link Wrote:Tex was a 50 goal forward 4-5 years back…remember the hanger on Carlisle Bumbers at the G?
WTF have we turned him into?….under Ratts he was a run and gunn half forward doing major damage now he's been transformed to a hesitant running half back going sideways
He was terrible in 2012 up forward under Ratten. Mick put him down back in 2013 and he had his best year, then he dropped off. In summary he can't back up one good season with another.
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - Amers - 05-29-2015
Missing, not only Judd, Murph and Gibbs, but also Jammo and Kreuzer. That's a lot of class out of the side.
At least we saw some effort tonight, poor skills and execution let us down many many times.
We need to find a small lock down defender. Touhy is currently used as our number 1 small defender. To me, he is better suited as an attacking half back flanker, but we need to develop someone to replace him on the full back line.
I want to see Walker used forward, I would like to see Buckley used off a wing or defensive/pressure forward.
Cripps is an absolute gem, Graham - 14 touches and 7 tackles, not bad for his 1st full game in how long?
Why, when we are short on key defenders, not play Watson back there? Expecting Simon White to cover guys like Buddy and Tippett is just ridiculous.
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-29-2015
(05-29-2015, 01:10 PM)Mantis link Wrote:Elwood, I am really sorry to question Everitt on your knowledge of his improved games since leaving the bulldogs. However he is another fail for me. He has the height and is athletic, but just doesn't do enough to damage the scoreboard. He just runs around like a Bower. Sorry to compare the 2, but he will become our next Bower. Potential, but no real ability over the full 4 quarters of a match. Yoyo boy will be my new knick-name for him. Sorry buddy, don't take this as anything against you. I respect all your posts but he is only slightly better than Jones. Actually heaps better than Jones, but then again if we delist both, they will never get a game at any club ever again. IMO. Cheers Elwood.
Mants...I'm no oracle on or apologist for Everiit so happy to accept your opinions and anyone elses, I agree he isnt impacting for 4 quarters and can look sloppy/laconic but I think he has more natural talent than a lot of blokes on our list and can be useful in a better team. He wont ever be a prime mover but is more a finisher/add some polish type player.
I think some of us think he can convert better than most and play that 3rd tall forward role but he does need to work on his defensive game/ application as he can go missing when it gets tough and frustrate people like your good self...in a poor team like ours he can be lazy and still look good and I take your point about lack of impact on a consistent basis....
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - madbluboy - 05-29-2015
Walker started forward tonight and was hopeless.
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - Amers - 05-29-2015
(05-29-2015, 01:15 PM)townsendcalling link Wrote:I think there's an elephant in the room: Is Troy Menzel really as good as everyone is making out he is??
No, give him to Geelong for their 1st rounder, maybe his heart is already there.
Probably our best trade bait.
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - laj - 05-29-2015
(05-29-2015, 01:47 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:He was terrible in 2012 up forward under Ratten. Mick put him down back in 2013 and he had his best year, then he dropped off. In summary he can't back up one good season with another.
Had his best year in 2011 kicking 56 goals. 2012, didn't play until round 5, so obviously he lost a bit of his pre-season. Lost quite a few games later in the year too. Games he did play he did pretty well. Didn't always play forward but still hit the scoreboard. Should've been kept up forward as his game went gradually backwards again down back as it had previously.
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - madbluboy - 05-29-2015
Walker came 2nd in the best and fairest in 2013 playing HBF.
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - laj - 05-29-2015
(05-29-2015, 01:52 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:Walker started forward tonight and was hopeless.
Been out for a while and underdone. Hard work in our forward line even when your fit right now, unlike 2011 (remember who our coach was then???). Thank your mate for that problem, he's decimated our run and flair. What was once a strength is now a weakness. Without run your club goes no-where.
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - laj - 05-29-2015
(05-29-2015, 02:03 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:Walker came 2nd in the best and fairest in 2013 playing HBF.And kicked 56 goals playing forward. Kicking 56 goals up forward is a much tougher task than playing half back.
Disintegrated since playing down back after that.
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - madbluboy - 05-29-2015
(05-29-2015, 02:05 PM)laj link Wrote:And kicked 56 goals playing forward.
Disintegrated since playing down back.
2012 happened.