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Re: Round #4 Carlton vs St. Kilda in NZ: Pre Game prognostications - chookaradley - 04-20-2015
MM is on the record as saying he wants Buckley to be a defender. Byrne is a defender, Docerty, Yarran defenders. Is there anyone with some pace who can crumb a goal and help to hold the ball in on the list that MM will play forward?
Re: Round #4 Carlton vs St. Kilda in NZ: Pre Game prognostications - kruddler - 04-20-2015
(04-20-2015, 12:11 AM)chookaradley link Wrote:MM is on the record as saying he wants Buckley to be a defender. Byrne is a defender, Docerty, Yarran defenders. Is there anyone with some pace who can crumb a goal and help to hold the ball in on the list that MM will play forward?
Smith, Tutt, Ellard, Menzel.
Re: Round #4 Carlton vs St. Kilda in NZ: Pre Game prognostications - mina1 - 04-20-2015
here goes we need to bring in quick players (not graham to slow) and maybe give judd and jamo the week off u have to say that saints are young and no roo helps,but this could be the battle of 1st quarter .
Re: Round #4 Carlton vs St. Kilda in NZ: Pre Game prognostications - cimm1979 - 04-20-2015
(04-20-2015, 01:01 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Smith, Tutt, Ellard, Menzel.
Not ready/not proven, given 1 game/failure at Dogs, defensive forward/slow, injured and/or out of form.
Next.
Re: Round #4 Carlton vs St. Kilda in NZ: Pre Game prognostications - Thryleon - 04-20-2015
Boekhorst and Skittles have pace, but they too would fit that same category of not ready/proven.
Re: Round #4 Carlton vs St. Kilda in NZ: Pre Game prognostications - kruddler - 04-20-2015
(04-20-2015, 01:06 AM)cimm1979 link Wrote:Not ready/not proven, given 1 game/failure at Dogs, defensive forward/slow, injured and/or out of form.
Next.
This is what happens when you turn over the list.
You get kids who are not quite ready yet and blokes who are but are perhaps not up to it.
Menzel is injured.
You could also throw Daisy into that list, but yes he is injured too.
People don't want a quick fix....but they do.
Re: Round #4 Carlton vs St. Kilda in NZ: Pre Game prognostications - chookaradley - 04-20-2015
(04-20-2015, 01:15 AM)kruddler link Wrote:This is what happens when you turn over the list.
You get kids who are not quite ready yet and blokes who are but are perhaps not up to it.
Menzel is injured.
You could also throw Daisy into that list, but yes he is injured too.
People don't want a quick fix....but they do.
I agree with your sentiment Krud, but to me Buckley is a natural forward. Ellards not up to the role, Tutts a list clogger, and Menzel is prob the most overrated player on the list for what he's produced. My point is let Buckley play forward,and for MM to stop with obsession with turning half our list into defenders.
Re: Round #4 Carlton vs St. Kilda in NZ: Pre Game prognostications - cimm1979 - 04-20-2015
(04-20-2015, 01:15 AM)kruddler link Wrote:This is what happens when you turn over the list.
You get kids who are not quite ready yet and blokes who are but are perhaps not up to it.
Menzel is injured.
You could also throw Daisy into that list, but yes he is injured too.
People don't want a quick fix....but they do.
Was making the case that Buckley could probably play there.
Should have played before Smith.
Re: Round #4 Carlton vs St. Kilda in NZ: Pre Game prognostications - LP - 04-20-2015
They want Buckley to tag as well;
Quote:Bucks' played down back. What we’ve been working on with Dylan is his defensive side. We know that he can provide us good run and carry off half-back, and he got one inside-50 from his 11 disposals. We’ve got to continue to keep working on his defensive side and he showed good signs in that area today.
They have already turned Yarran into a tagger, a bloke who could easily be as damaging as Betts, Rioli, Ablett, Judd, etc., etc.. They have standardised him into a good ordinary player!
It's fecking depressing, our MC would have Phar Lap training as a trotter just in case! :
Re: Round #4 Carlton vs St. Kilda in NZ: Pre Game prognostications - kruddler - 04-20-2015
@the above 2 comments re Buckley.
I've never seen him as a natural forward personally. I'm sure he could play there if given a shot, but he isn't the most polished player by foot. Do we need another forward who can't kick straight?
Alternatively, we need to find a couple of decent back pocket players as it is. Tuohy is the best we've got and many don't rate him. After him you start robbing peter to pay paul. Walker, Simpson, Carrazzo have all played there, but are better suited elsewhere. In fact Carrazzo started his career in a back pocket and worked his way into the midfield.
Perhaps what we need is players like Buckley playing their role for the team (in this case a small defender) and then moving onto greener pastures later.