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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - PaulP - 09-03-2021

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-20/rise-of-self-harm-mental-health-services-covid-pandemic/100305640

This article is from July this year. For Victoria, NSW, and Queensland, rates of suicide have not increased since the start of the pandemic. There have been increases in calls to mental support services, and increase in attempts to self harm.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - madbluboy - 09-03-2021

A lot has happened since July Paul.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - PaulP - 09-03-2021

(09-03-2021, 06:21 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:A lot has happened since July Paul.

Maybe, but i can't find anything online that seems reliable and is more recent than July.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Micky0 - 09-03-2021

(09-03-2021, 06:10 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Stop talking out of your arse.
Really?

July was 4 weeks ago.

The fact remains a Pandemic pushes everyone into distress at varying degrees, absolutely.

Anyway not going to continue to talk about it for reasons said earlier.  Just because anecdotally you’ve heard of this person or that person, doesn’t mean it’s more due only to being in a lockdown.

We have someone close to our family attempt - 17yo. Thankfully found in time, he had prior mental health conditions and has now been diagnosed with one and getting the help needed.  That was between lockdowns.

Anyway as I said earlier I don’t want to distress anyone so would prefer not to keep talking about it save to say the world has changed in the past 18months and that’s unsettling to me, and I suspect everyone.



Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - flyboy77 - 09-03-2021

I'll leave this with you - if you think anything will change with 70% or 80% vaxx rates.

My 8yo can assist with interpreting the numbers.





Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - flyboy77 - 09-03-2021

(09-03-2021, 06:18 AM)PaulP link Wrote:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-20/rise-of-self-harm-mental-health-services-covid-pandemic/100305640

This article is from July this year. For Victoria, NSW, and Queensland, rates of suicide have not increased since the start of the pandemic. There have been increases in calls to mental support services, and increase in attempts to self harm.

Can't comment about the suicide rate (haven't seen data) but I have heard first hand anecdotal stories from paramedics.

Self harm - a clear, well defined precursor to suicide - often a 6 to 18 month lag, is off the charts. And some....

That comes from a very high up dude I know in a very high up place.

So we have a choice here - open up and a few vulnerable types will get very ill and a fewer number again may die (and by all means get vaxxed if you want to - all power to you)

OR

do what we are doing & sacrifice a generation of kids (and see many more deaths).

Destroy pretty much all small business and bump the domestic/familial violence stats skyward.

The choice is clear.

Don't be a bed wetter.

ps if certain people want to lock themselves behind doors on an ongoing basis, knock yourself out. Freedom of choice!



Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 09-03-2021

Discussed this before and I will concur with Fly on the Paramedics stories, we have Paramedic connections in the family and both have said callouts for mental health issues related to CoVid are high. As I have said before only if a patient is admitted to hospital do they become a statistic so unsuccessful suicides who recover on location for example wont make the stat sheets.
Even the ambulance crews are drug tested more due to the stress levels and nursing is a profession that has always had its problems with addictions and that has also got worse during CoVid.
The TV series Nurse Jackie was entertaining but the bottom line was she was on the gear and getting it from inhouse sources.....whoever wrote that show wasnt making it up and our frontline heathcare workers are strung out with CoVid and we are going to lose some of the best in the business thanks to the lack of Government support and I suspect its the same in most States.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - PaulP - 09-03-2021

This is a pretty touchy subject, and I think we need to tread carefully.

Anecdotal stories have their place, but they are not a substitute for a good sample space of tabulated data that enables us to see the bigger picture, the broad societal trends. Until such information is forthcoming, I suggest we park the anecdotal fallacies, and the Appeal to Authority fallacy, and pause for a moment.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Baggers - 09-03-2021

(09-03-2021, 07:12 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Can't comment about the suicide rate (haven't seen data) but I have heard first hand anecdotal stories from paramedics.

Self harm - a clear, well defined precursor to suicide - often a 6 to 18 month lag, is off the charts. And some.... What!

That comes from a very high up dude I know in a very high up place. Jesus?

So we have a choice here - open up and a few vulnerable types will get very ill and a fewer number again may die (and by all means get vaxxed if you want to - all power to you)

OR

do what we are doing & sacrifice a generation of kids (and see many more deaths).

Destroy pretty much all small business and bump the domestic/familial violence stats skyward.

The choice is clear.

Don't be a bed wetter.

ps if certain people want to lock themselves behind doors on an ongoing basis, knock yourself out. Freedom of choice!


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Baggers - 09-03-2021

(09-03-2021, 07:12 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Self harm - a clear, well defined precursor to suicide - often a 6 to 18 month lag, is off the charts. And some....

An extremely irresponsible assertion on your part. You should delete this post. Did you even consider who might be reading this comment? Whoever told you this is totally wrong. Self-harm does NOT automatically assume suicide. Terrible post. I'd be happy to illuminate you on the facts, re self-harm by PM.

Anyone who has a relative/loved one/friend who self-harms, please DON'T be alarmed by 77s assertion. Treatment and care for these folks is often very successful.