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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - DJC - 11-18-2016
A caller to SEN asked whether a fieldsman can change positions after the bowler starts his run up. A NSW slips fielder moved to leg slip as the bowler was approaching. The batsman, White, swept and the ball passed the fieldsman for four runs.
Chuck Berry immediately said that it would have been Smith as he has tried it several times before. Surely the Aussie captain should play according to the rules.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - sandsmere - 11-18-2016
Renshaw to open with Warner I reckon.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - laj - 11-18-2016
(11-18-2016, 10:44 AM)DJC link Wrote:A caller to SEN asked whether a fieldsman can change positions after the bowler starts his run up. A NSW slips fielder moved to leg slip as the bowler was approaching. The batsman, White, swept and the ball passed the fieldsman for four runs.
Chuck Berry immediately said that it would have been Smith as he has tried it several times before. Surely the Aussie captain should play according to the rules.
Actually someone took a catch that way in a Test match and the ICC said it was legal afterwards. Going off memory.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - LP - 11-18-2016
(11-18-2016, 11:02 PM)laj link Wrote:Actually someone took a catch that way in a Test match and the ICC said it was legal afterwards. Going off memory.
Really it's outside of the intent of the rules, it was brought in to deal with batsmen who change their stance during the deliver stride.
Quote:Steven Smith's catch to dismiss Fawad Alam in 2014 was an example of legal anticipation
The MCC has confirmed an update to the Laws that allows a fielder to make a "significant movement" before the striker has played the ball. The ICC, in consultation with the MCC, had already introduced a playing condition to this effect last year, which came to light after Steven Smith took a catch to remove Fawad Alam* in an ODI in Abu Dhabi.
Previously, under Laws 41.7 and 41.8, Smith's movement would have resulted in a dead ball, with "significant movement ... before the ball reaches the striker" deemed as "unfair".
They have now been replaced by a single Law .417, governing movement by fielders other than the wicketkeeper. The change is designed to promote "intelligent fielding" and allows a player to move if it becomes obvious a batsman will play the ball in a certain direction.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - laj - 11-18-2016
(11-18-2016, 11:21 PM)LP link Wrote:Really it's outside of the intent of the rules, it was brought in to deal with batsmen who change their stance during the deliver stride.
I'm glad my memory still functions reasonably at least at my age. C.R.A.F.T. disease hasn't quite kicked in yet..lol.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - flyboy77 - 11-19-2016
i note the much hyped NSW line up was humbled vs the Vics today....
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - LP - 11-19-2016
(11-19-2016, 04:21 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:i note the much hyped NSW line up was humbled vs the Vics today....
Smith puts Lyon in to be night watchmen, what a fecking joke of a Test Captain!
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - Professer E - 11-19-2016
What's your beef with Smith? Who else can do the job? He is doing what he can with the little he has.... strewth, Steve Waugh or AB would struggle to get the current mob to perform. In Lyon's case you can't pull your socks up if you ain't wearing any.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - LP - 11-20-2016
(11-19-2016, 08:41 AM)Professer E link Wrote:What's your beef with Smith? Who else can do the job? He is doing what he can with the little he has.... strewth, Steve Waugh or AB would struggle to get the current mob to perform. In Lyon's case you can't pull your socks up if you ain't wearing any.
Leaders have got to lead, especially when things are getting tough.
Smith's willingness to use a night-watchman makes me think he's looking for a way out of the kitchen, things are getting too hot for him!
Even if Lyon put his hand up to be a night-watchman, Smith should have said no and took on the responsibility!
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - DJC - 11-20-2016
I'm not convinced about Smith as captain. He seems to do OK when the team is well placed but struggles when the team is up against it.
I don't think Cricket Australia considered options when they anointed Smith for the role.