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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - dodge - 08-22-2021

The protest yesterday in Melbourne was illegal.  The opposition leader is in a dilemma.  Do I come out and condemn the protest and those that attended and lose more support among our supporter base?  Or do I stay silent, inferring support of an illegal activity.  If I support the action and am a leader, should I have attended?

As he has stayed silent, does he support the action?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Micky0 - 08-22-2021

All the numbers about who is hospitalised and the death rates always ignore this fact - the hospitals themselves say they are stretch to capacity at the rate they’re getting now - we are seeing the Royal Melb have a case that infected a health care worker and now X amount of hospital staff have to quarantine for two weeks so now your workforce is down X amounts - health care professionals aren’t an infinite resource.  In fact I have read somewhere along the way that nurses are quitting in droves, sick and tired of watching people actively work against their own best interests and these poor workers then having to pay the price.

So we open up and let it rip - are you happy to gasp for oxygen at home or watch your loved one go through the same, because there’ll be no room for them? Add in if you’ve unfortunately got a medical condition that requires you to have Drs and nurses look after or your loved ones does, are you happy for them to have to make do at home with what you have on hand because there is no room/drs/nurses to help you?

Until we’re all vaccinated and they find a better way that this horrid thing can be treated from
Home, we can’t just let it rip.

Honestly - let’s listen to the medical people - I don’t see what they have to Gain - most are exhausted and just trying to do their job!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-22-2021

(08-22-2021, 04:09 AM)Micky0 link Wrote:All the numbers about who is hospitalised and the death rates always ignore this fact - the hospitals themselves say they are stretch to capacity at the rate they’re getting now - we are seeing the Royal Melb have a case that infected a health care worker and now X amount of hospital staff have to quarantine for two weeks so now your workforce is down X amounts - health care professionals aren’t an infinite resource.  In fact I have read somewhere along the way that nurses are quitting in droves, sick and tired of watching people actively work against their own best interests and these poor workers then having to pay the price.

So we open up and let it rip - are you happy to gasp for oxygen at home or watch your loved one go through the same, because there’ll be no room for them? Add in if you’ve unfortunately got a medical condition that requires you to have Drs and nurses look after or your loved ones does, are you happy for them to have to make do at home with what you have on hand because there is no room/drs/nurses to help you?

Until we’re all vaccinated and they find a better way that this horrid thing can be treated from
Home, we can’t just let it rip.

Honestly - let’s listen to the medical people - I don’t see what they have to Gain - most are exhausted and just trying to do their job!
Re: the latter, shortage in ICU/ER nurses, they are leaving the job and the system is stretched..



Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 08-23-2021

A conservative radio host in the US fell for the Anti-Vax/Ivermectin idiocy: Conservative Radio Host Who Mocked Vaccines Dies of COVID-19, Daily Beast.

Quote:He had said of the vaccine, “I have a very low risk of A) Getting COVID and B) dying of it if I do. Why would I risk getting a heart attack or paralysis by getting the vaccine?” He also said at the time that he had been taking the anti-parasite medication ivermectin, a drug that comes in different forms for animals and humans. The drug has recently been touted as a sort of COVID miracle cure by conservatives, despite no solid evidence it is effective against the virus and health officials sounding the alarm over people poisoning themselves with the animal version of the drug.

Not a great advertisement for Ivermectin. But if I were a test-tube, I’d rush out and buy it because it has cured a lot of test-tubes apparently.

Unfortunately for Phil Valentine, he was sucked in by the conservative con. He should have realised that he just needed to say he was against vaccines and for Ivermectin: he should have got himself vaccinated while telling his audience that they should refuse the vaccine. Republicans in Congress refuse to say whether they’ve been vaccinated on the grounds that the legislation protecting medical confidentiality prevents them from answering that question (which it doesn’t). It turns out they can have their cake and eat it too. They can win praise from Anti-Vaxxers while keeping themselves safe.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 08-23-2021

I'm somewhat buoyed by NSW holding the figures to 800 cases a day, presuming they are genuine, once it gets into those numbers it's hard to tell what is accurate. However, I'll reserve getting to excited given they only mandated masks for the first time today! :o

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - PaulP - 08-23-2021

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/you-are-not-a-cow-warning-over-use-of-livestock-anti-worm-drug-in-the-us-20210823-p58l3i.html

Just remember ladies and gents - you are not cows. Moo.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Micky0 - 08-23-2021

Yea I saw that report ? you can’t make this stuff up!

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/21/us/phil-valentine-dies-covid.html

This is just - whst!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - PaulP - 08-23-2021

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/premier-abandon-your-plans-to-open-up-when-we-hit-6-million-jabs-20210822-p58kxb.html

This is more for NSW, but clearly the principle is applicable in all States.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 08-23-2021

(08-23-2021, 05:54 AM)PaulP date Wrote:https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/premier-abandon-your-plans-to-open-up-when-we-hit-6-million-jabs-20210822-p58kxb.html

This is more for NSW, but clearly the principle is applicable in all States.
With Burythemall in charge I really can't work out what is a valid statement. Lots of statements seem to have a lifetime of about a week, usually prefaced by we aren't going to make the same mistakes as Victoria, or we won't be going down that track, until they do!

It's like,
Never ending stalling - Lal lal laaaa lal lal la lal lal la!
Never ending stalling - Lal lal laaaa lal lal la lal lal la!
Never ending stalling - Lal lal laaaa lal lal la lal lal la!
Never ending stalling - Lal lal laaaa lal lal la lal lal la!


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - PaulP - 08-23-2021

https://theconversation.com/how-will-delta-evolve-heres-what-the-theory-tells-us-165243

This article gives a pretty good layperson's introduction.