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Re: Review - DJC - 06-24-2021
(06-24-2021, 03:58 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I'd bet London to a brick that most, if not all of SPS, Dow, O'Brien etc. would be flying at the better clubs, instead of languishing in CFC limbo. For every Weitering, Walsh, McKay etc. there are way too many fails to be ignored IMO.
Not only that Paul, imagine how good Cripps, Weitering, Walsh and McKay could be :-\
Re: Review - DJC - 06-24-2021
(06-24-2021, 01:15 AM)laj link Wrote:Same reason as premiership coaches like Malthouse failed. Player culture, lack of drive and motivation. All player issues. Keep changing coaches, nothing changes in any of those aspects. Game plans never look like they work when players decide they won't work hard. Ridiculously, Teague has comfortably been our 2nd best coach, from a win/loss basis, this century and certainly one of the most scoreboard competitive (as distinct from actually competitive sometimes). Won't only need to change of player attitude and workrate to make finals.
Yes, agree with the latter part. From what I heard though Teague has had enough and wanted to quit a few weeks ago, Between family tragedy and trying to his his team to do as their told he probably had enough.
I really don't buy the idea that it's poor player culture that causes the downfall of our coaches ... and coaches are responsible for managing the playing group and that includes driving a competitive, winning culture.
The problem is with the board and administration that (a) sack coaches that show potential to succeed, (b) appoint the wrong coaches © don't give coaches the support and assistance they need (d) value membership numbers more than sustained success, and (e) can't stick with a plan for sustained success.
Re: Review - kruddler - 06-24-2021
(06-23-2021, 01:39 PM)DJC link Wrote:If Teague can coach at AFL level, why haven't we seen evidence of it.Compare the pair....
Bolton vs Teague.
I've shown his last 40 games vs teagues first 40 games and the difference is night and day.
If Bolton was really that bad, then surely Teague get a pass just on what he's been able to do with the same list.
Re: Review - PaulP - 06-24-2021
Teague has a better list than Bolton ever had - more star power, more depth, more experience (players have more games under their belts), more stability. The other side of the coin is that expectations and demands for success are greater for Teague.
Re: Review - kruddler - 06-24-2021
(06-24-2021, 10:12 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Teague has a better list than Bolton ever had - more star power, more depth, more experience (players have more games under their belts), more stability. The other side of the coin is that expectations and demands for success are greater for Teague.
How much of that did he have in his first 11 games as coach?
I rest my case.
Re: Review - Gointocarlton - 06-24-2021
(06-24-2021, 09:42 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Compare the pair....Teagues first 41 games are 17W 24L. Guess what Bollts first 41 games yielded? You guessed it 17W 24L.
Bolton vs Teague.
I've shown his last 40 games vs teagues first 40 games and the difference is night and day.
If Bolton was really that bad, then surely Teague get a pass just on what he's been able to do with the same list.
Re: Review - capcom - 06-24-2021
So tell me why there was an immediate turnaround in W / L under Teague? Same list after all.
Re: Review - PaulP - 06-24-2021
(06-24-2021, 10:17 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Teagues first 41 games are 17W 24L. Guess what Bollts first 41 games yielded? You guessed it 17W 24L.
Thank you sir. The next round of Espressos and Rum Babas are on me.
Re: Review - PaulP - 06-24-2021
List quality isn't just about names on a list, independent of time and space. It's not just about Saad, Williams etc. It's also about maturation and experience. Walsh has played abut 40 of his 50 games under Teague. Weitering and McKay became A graders this season. DeKoning is better now.
If folks don't think our list is better now, then we've just wasted 2 years and millions if dollars.
Re: Review - kruddler - 06-24-2021
(06-24-2021, 10:17 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Teagues first 41 games are 17W 24L. Guess what Bollts first 41 games yielded? You guessed it 17W 24L.Different lists.
Teague took over Boltons list.
Teague got more wins in his first 11 games than Bolton did in his last 50+.