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Re: The rise and RISE of Marc Pittonet - pew2 - 06-20-2023
why did we give him 4 yrs, Pitto needs to do extra extra running sessions needs to improve in getting around the ground more ,ruck is not just center bounce anymore
Re: The rise and RISE of Marc Pittonet - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-20-2023
(06-19-2023, 08:54 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Word is Tom knows they can't satisfy us and will sign a 2 year deal taking him to FA.Do we want a player who is just hanging around for 2 years?, until the big pay day who has his mind somewhere else and wont be fully committed who we put more devlopment time into then fecks off and we get some crap compo pick in a weak draft knowing our luck. Id rather trade him out now to the highest bidder and develop the next TDK than waste time getting him cherry ripe for Geelong. He can go to Essendon or Stkilda and they can pay us properly....
Re: The rise and RISE of Marc Pittonet - kruddler - 06-20-2023
(06-20-2023, 06:26 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Do we want a player who is just hanging around for 2 years?, until the big pay day who has his mind somewhere else and wont be fully committed who we put more devlopment time into then fecks off and we get some crap compo pick in a weak draft knowing our luck. Id rather trade him out now to the highest bidder and develop the next TDK than waste time getting him cherry ripe for Geelong. He can go to Essendon or Stkilda and they can pay us properly....
If you want top dollar for him via trade, first you need to make sure he is under contract.
Biding his time or not, if he wants to sign for 2 years on OK money, thats fine. If he thinks he is due his pay day now, then there's the door.
Put up first, money later.
Re: The rise and RISE of Marc Pittonet - Gointocarlton - 06-20-2023
(06-20-2023, 06:26 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Do we want a player who is just hanging around for 2 years?, until the big pay day who has his mind somewhere else and wont be fully committed who we put more devlopment time into then fecks off and we get some crap compo pick in a weak draft knowing our luck. Id rather trade him out now to the highest bidder and develop the next TDK than waste time getting him cherry ripe for Geelong. He can go to Essendon or Stkilda and they can pay us properly....Forget word on the street for a moment, my own mail is that he loves the club and prefers to stay, it's up to to the club. What I read into that is that they are looking at trading him now (which he knows) rather than losing him to FA now (which they dont know for sure that he will go, he may choose to stay long term). Its all a bit of a mess if you ask me. My preference would be to try and keep him for 2 and hopefully we fire up and he stays longer. If he has to leave, his preference is Geel for obvious reasons and its here that I feel Curly's Boy will cave in and we will end up with dregs off Geel (again).
My own preference if we have to trade his is to Syd involving Papley or Heeney.
Re: The rise and RISE of Marc Pittonet - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-20-2023
(06-20-2023, 07:29 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Forget word on the street for a moment, my own mail is that he loves the club and prefers to stay, it's up to to the club. What I read into that is that they are looking at trading him now (which he knows) rather than losing him to FA now (which they dont know for sure that he will go, he may choose to stay long term). Its all a bit of a mess if you ask me. My preference would be to try and keep him for 2 and hopefully we fire up and he stays longer. If he has to leave, his preference is Geel for obvious reasons and its here that I feel Curly's Boy will cave in and we will end up with dregs off Geel (again).Id love Heeney or Warner in an ideal world but there is no way they would leave Sydney unless fired out the door and thats not going to happen.My thoughts have always been he would love to go to Geelong and be close to family but as you say they dont have the right trade bait imho and would need to get very creative or just stitch us up with rubbish which is highly likely.
My own preference if we have to trade his is to Syd involving Papley or Heeney.
Id want picks in this draft and maybe some points for the Campo kids for the following year not Geelong fringe discards and/or future picks in a weak draft. Then you have the other scenario's of trying to trade with Dodo at Essendon or SOS at Stkilda if TDK wanted the extra dough.
Im not against keeping him but it wouldnt be for big dollars however I agree he is our best trade bait and with an overhaul of the list likely and only one decent draft pick in such a strong draft coming up I cant see the club not testing the market which will make him want out for sure..
Re: The rise and RISE of Marc Pittonet - shawny - 06-20-2023
(06-20-2023, 07:29 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Forget word on the street for a moment, my own mail is that he loves the club and prefers to stay, it's up to to the club. What I read into that is that they are looking at trading him now (which he knows) rather than losing him to FA now (which they dont know for sure that he will go, he may choose to stay long term). Its all a bit of a mess if you ask me. My preference would be to try and keep him for 2 and hopefully we fire up and he stays longer. If he has to leave, his preference is Geel for obvious reasons and its here that I feel Curly's Boy will cave in and we will end up with dregs off Geel (again).
My own preference if we have to trade his is to Syd involving Papley or Heeney.
Papley yes for sure but find Heeney highly over rated. Plays a good game every 4
Re: The rise and RISE of Marc Pittonet - madbluboy - 06-20-2023
(06-19-2023, 07:26 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:re: Darcy.....form has declined since Jacksons arrival, was better when he had Lobb who was more of a 75/25 Forward in the main.
Jackson has really fecked up Freo and its shows how bringing in high paid players to positions you already have covered can ruin your game plan and method.
Tim English on the other hand has had a blinder of a year....doesnt have to play forward much like he did last year and now enter Lobb who has allowed him to ruck most of the game.
The strange aspect is that Lobb as a ruckman is a spud who would struggle against most other rucks but his role is just to give the main ruckman a short rest each quarter and then go forward where he probably does his best work.
Finding that specialist Forward/Ruck is the key imho.......for mine TDK is more of a ruckman than a forward and we dont still have the right mix.
Freo Contested possession differential
With Darcy: +14.4
Without Darcy: -17.7
Re: The rise and RISE of Marc Pittonet - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-20-2023
(06-20-2023, 08:16 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Freo Contested possession differentialReckon GC with Witts and Richmond with Nank would be similar..... Geelong would be interested in those Stats for Darcy.
With Darcy: +14.4
Without Darcy: -17.7
Re: The rise and RISE of Marc Pittonet - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-20-2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsiDIy_Ijzg
Re: The rise and RISE of Marc Pittonet - Gointocarlton - 06-27-2023
"When Pittonet attends a ruck contest, Carlton wins the clearance seven per cent more often than their opposition. When De Koning attends a ruck contest, they lose the clearance seven per cent more often than their opposition."
- Daniel Hoyne 27/6/23