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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - Pratty - 11-17-2016
Jake Lehmann has to be a chance too. Matt Renshaw is another I keep hearing about.
Add Handscomb, Patterson, Bancroft, Maddinson and Stoinis to the mix, plus Wade, and we have some options to choose from, all young too. (Wade 28yo)
James Faulkner is a made Test cricketer IMO.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - flyboy77 - 11-17-2016
(11-17-2016, 04:24 AM)Pratty link Wrote:Jake Lehmann has to be a chance too. Matt Renshaw is another I keep hearing about.
Add Handscomb, Patterson, Bancroft, Maddinson and Stoinis to the mix, plus Wade, and we have some options to choose from, all young too. (Wade 28yo)
James Faulkner is a made Test cricketer IMO.
Lehmann looks very much in form so pick him, irrelevant who his Dad is....
Handscomg on 57no as we speak, Dean (who's he?) on 94 no.
Khawaja got a ton.
Burns failed. Gone.
Bancroft failed, Voges retired hurt!
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - LP - 11-17-2016
In regards to today's Adam Voges incident.
How do blokes make it to test level unable to deal with short pitched bowling, dealing with bouncers by turning their heads away?
FFS, they have hundreds of dollars of high strength carbon fibre or titanium alloy sitting on their head and the best they can do is duck! With that headgear on you could freaking head-butt the ball Kohli style and just laugh it off, but these guys turn away exposing the back of their head to the delivery!
It's just another sign of how far Australian cricket has slipped!
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - Professer E - 11-17-2016
When your form and confidence are shot, batsmen do that kind of thing. I suspect that his "eye" might have gone as well. Unfortunately, for his own safety, it might be close to curtains for him.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - laj - 11-17-2016
(11-17-2016, 05:24 AM)LP link Wrote:In regards to today's Adam Voges incident.
How do blokes make it to test level unable to deal with short pitched bowling, dealing with bouncers by turning their heads away?
FFS, they have hundreds of dollars of high strength carbon fibre or titanium alloy sitting on their head and the best they can do is duck! With that headgear on you could freaking head-butt the ball Kohli style and just laugh it off, but these guys turn away exposing the back of their head to the delivery!
It's just another sign of how far Australian cricket has slipped!
He made it to Test level at 36. Going by his dismissal in the Test match it looked like his "eye" had gone and wasn't picking up the ball as quickly. Age waits for no-one. Ponting had a couple of interesting bizarre-like dismissals late in his career to just before he retired.
Voges started late but made the most of his time at Test level. Father time has caught up with him. Happens to them all.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - ElwoodBlues1 - 11-17-2016
(11-17-2016, 04:24 AM)Pratty link Wrote:Jake Lehmann has to be a chance too. Matt Renshaw is another I keep hearing about.
Add Handscomb, Patterson, Bancroft, Maddinson and Stoinis to the mix, plus Wade, and we have some options to choose from, all young too. (Wade 28yo)
James Faulkner is a made Test cricketer IMO.
I'm a fan of Faulkner...got some hardness about the way he plays his cricket and we dont really have a bowler who can swing/reverse and seam it at 130k which seems what you need these days...3 genuine quicks who dont swing or move the ball unless its brand new doesnt work in Test Cricket anymore.
Add his very handy batting...Starc isnt a decent No 8 and good outfielding and you have a cricketer we need in the team....its an obvious selection IMO..
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - laj - 11-17-2016
(11-17-2016, 06:16 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I'm a fan of Faulkner...got some hardness about the way he plays his cricket and we dont really have a bowler who can swing/reverse and seam it at 130k which seems what you need these days...3 genuine quicks who dont swing or move the ball unless its brand new doesnt work in Test Cricket anymore.
Add his very handy batting...Starc isnt a decent No 8 and good outfielding and you have a cricketer we need in the team....its an obvious selection IMO..
Actually, Starc averages 22.45 with the bat in Test cricket, six 50s including a 99. Imagine it was higher before the series started as he hasn't made a score thus far.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - ElwoodBlues1 - 11-17-2016
(11-17-2016, 06:25 AM)laj link Wrote:Actually, Starc averages 22.45 with the bat in Test cricket, six 50s including a 99. Imagine it was higher before the series started as he hasn't made a score thus far.
Starcs batting is overated IMo, he hasnt looked like doing anything other than giving slips catching practice to the saffies, his average is inflated IMO and is more suited when he can
throw the bat at 9/10/11.....at No 8 you have to bat responsibly at times and he gets out when he plays straight up and down to consistent line bowling...
I'd prefer Faulkner at 8 as he can defend and attack
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - Pratty - 11-17-2016
(11-17-2016, 04:48 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Lehmann looks very much in form so pick him, irrelevant who his Dad is....
Handscomg on 57no as we speak, Dean (who's he?) on 94 no.
Khawaja got a ton.
Burns failed. Gone.
Bancroft failed, Voges retired hurt!
THat's the other one I wanted to mention - Travis Dean. The 2nd season Vic opener. He goes very well IMHO.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - malo - 11-17-2016
(11-17-2016, 08:12 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Starcs batting is overated IMo, he hasnt looked like doing anything other than giving slips catching practice to the saffies, his average is inflated IMO and is more suited when he can
throw the bat at 9/10/11.....at No 8 you have to bat responsibly at times and he gets out when he plays straight up and down to consistent line bowling...
I'd prefer Faulkner at 8 as he can defend and attack
Yeah, I have to agree with that about Starc, he has a good eye & can get quick runs after a good foundation. But he's no Mitchell Johnson. We're starting to see exactly how valuable Johnson really was coming in at #8, and for all his critics & the pressure of following on from Gilchrist, Haddons batting looks very good in comparison to what's around now.
As an aside, I just read a bit of an extract from Haddons book regarding what he & his wife went through/is going through with his daughter.....I am astonished he was able to perform at the level he did quite frankly. As a dad with a little girl who is my world, stories like this really choke me.