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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - shawny - 08-16-2021

(08-16-2021, 03:04 AM)Professer E link Wrote:So the many pay for the few.  Getting close to over it.

You're not on your own mate.

Instead of conceding that maybe we need to look at other options to control this Dan and his oversized ego wont let him do it. He was waiting patiently for the minute he had an opportunity to point the finger a someone else and use that event to enforce toughen more barbaric restrictions - he pulled the trigger without a second delay without a minute concern care empathy on what these further restrictions are going to do to 99% of the law abiding population who have had enough. 

Too many are obsessed with Covid and 'number of cases' against the number the of actual deaths that pandemic is producing in our country all while ignoring the severe effect these over the top restrictions are having on millions of victorians.

We have decimated small business, mental illness in the younger groups is out of control, and mark my words thousands more will die from serious illnesses like cancers, heart disease etc as early detection and proper management is impossible in these crazy times.

   

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - shawny - 08-16-2021

(08-16-2021, 02:39 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:The NSW premier just said even if they had 80% vaccination we would still have restrictions with 400 cases a day.
We are going to be locked up for a long time.

At least she's honest on that point.

Dictator Dan alludes to us being able to roam free once we hit the magical 80% mark.

Kidding our self.   

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 08-16-2021

(08-16-2021, 03:25 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:So kids can't go to school, play outside but 40 blokes can get together each week tackling each other?
As a Carlton supporter, I'm very much in favour of stopping AFL games.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - dodge - 08-16-2021

Yep.  And as Thry pointed out, these lockdowns are becoming much harder to cope with - his feedback from friends and colleagues is much the same as mine.

It is an abject failure of our politicians - particularly Feds.  National Cabinet is a ruse to deflect responsibility from Feds and force it to the states.  This is only going to have the states go political for their own survival - which they have done, to the detriment of the country.  The bun fight is ludicrous.  I don't care who is responsible (ultimately) for quarantine or securing vaccines.  Just get it done.  Don't market it, don't grandstand, just do it.  Be consistent, show us that the country is working together and give us solutions.

What is it that we have to do to 'learn to live with it'?  Wear masks - half the pickles don't anyway.  Socially distance - half the pickles don't anyway.  Restrict some elements of movement - half the pickles don't anyway.  How did Delta get to Vic?  Pickles in NSW that didn't do the right thing.  They are only randomly enforceable laws.

I'm jack of it - yet I'm also very lucky - I haven't suffered any financial set back, haven't lost any work or reduced hours (they have actually increased significantly, but I don't bill the extra).  I have lost some social contact, but that doesn't phase me too much.  The kids are starting to suffer from losing the social contact and extra curricular activities, the Mrs is taking 1/2 days annual leave, so she can help with school.  My full sympathies go to those that are suffering mentally, socially and financially.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Professer E - 08-16-2021

The original messaging was "we have to lock down to protect the vulnerable".  When I hear about residents of retirement villages etc refusing vaccines I start to query what's the point of lock down.  Sorry Dan, the messaging ain't working for me.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - capcom - 08-16-2021

Greed comes to the forefront again.  People waiting for a possible $300 handout (thanks Albanese for sowing that seed of uncertainty you idiot) and those that simply won't accept a vaccine.  Dumb as.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 08-16-2021

(08-16-2021, 02:39 AM)madbluboy date Wrote:The NSW premier just said even if they had 80% vaccination we would still have restrictions with 400 cases a day.
We are going to be locked up for a long time.
NSW are in all sorts of shizen, her announcement is about softening the coming blows, within the next week or two there is a better than 50/50 chance they'll be wishing they still had only 400 a day!

I heard a Sydney based Doc on the radio today saying the metro ICU's are just about cooked, not just because of patient numbers, but because they have so so many staff unavailable in isolation, with the remainder working OT double and triple shifts. He said it can't continue, and if the public don't break from it's hell bent track then the health system will break!

It's quite hard to get hold of confirmed NSW stats, I have no idea why, they seem to guard everything making it very hard to cross check those claims!

This is exactly a consequence of not locking down early enough or hard enough, and as a result the @Thryleon predictions about things getting much much worse for the health sector before they get better will likely come true!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-16-2021

(08-16-2021, 06:03 AM)LP link Wrote:NSW are in all sorts of shizen, her announcement is about softening the coming blows, within the next week or two there is a better than 50/50 chance they'll be wishing they still had only 400 a day!

I heard a Sydney based Doc on the radio today saying the metro ICU's are just about cooked, not just because of patient numbers, but because they have so so many staff unavailable in isolation, with the remainder working OT double and triple shifts. He said it can't continue, and if the public don't break from it's hell bent track then the health system will break!

It's quite hard to get hold of confirmed NSW stats, I have no idea why, they seem to guard everything making it very hard to cross check those claims!

This is exactly a consequence of not locking down early enough or hard enough, and as a result the @Thryleon predictions about things getting much much worse for the health sector before they get better will likely come true!
Thry is right about getting worse, Frankston Hospital had a lot of staff infected last year at the peak and had to go on bypass, close wards etc but those stats wont make the news, same this year with Western health at Sunshine Footscray as I remarked before.
One of the problems with ICU staff is they take a while to train up, you just cant pick nurses up off any ward and dump them in ICU and expect them to do the job properly...you can have the beds and equipment but you get staff sick/infected and then you dont have many backups in those specialty areas.
Pandemics quickly highlight the gaps in the healthcare system and the lack of resources, State Premier's and the Fed Government need to fund the building of more hospitals, train and pay specialist staff properly and stop relying on the good nature of these caregivers to save the day. Ditto for Paramedics....they found money to increase the drug testing of these life savers but cant be bothered fixing the problems in the system which lead to the mental breakdowns and staff leaving the job..

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - capcom - 08-16-2021

McGowan is determined to isolate WA.  Lot of tit for tat at the moment.  But is this gets outta hand in remote western NSW communities, Berejiklian will really have a problem.

And she knows it.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 08-16-2021

(08-16-2021, 07:15 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Thry is right about getting worse, Frankston Hospital had a lot of staff infected last year at the peak and had to go on bypass, close wards etc but those stats wont make the news, same this year with Western health at Sunshine Footscray as I remarked before.
I saw a news item about that after your post, so were 100% on the money. Sadly, that gives credibility to your other observations.