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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-10-2021

(08-10-2021, 12:46 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:The worst of this crap show is yet to come.  Irrespective of vaccinations.
Yep, even with a vaccinated population life isnt going back to normal anytime soon ,as Iceland shows you can still have a lot of sick people in Hospital even if you get low death rates leading to a strain on resources. Opening up Australia for travel etc is still a long way off imho...


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 08-10-2021

For those of you who wonder why the political and social media war of words relating to efficacy and safety or AZ vs Pfizer, despite there being much evidence for better or safer performance form one or the other.

Pfizer / Moderna reported $9.6B profit for the year just finished.

Pfizer forecast $26B for the coming financial year, then after the various social media and political AZ backlash, Pfizer revised the forecast to $45.6B!

AZ do the vaccine at cost.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-10-2021

(08-10-2021, 01:50 AM)LP link Wrote:For those of you who wonder why the political and social media war of words relating to efficacy and safety or AZ vs Pfizer, despite there being much evidence for better or safer performance form one or the other.

Pfizer / Moderna reported $9.6B profit for the year just finished.

Pfizer forecast $26B for the coming financial year, then after the various social media and political AZ backlash, Pfizer revised the forecast to $45.6B!

AZ do the vaccine at cost.
AZ are taking profits when the pandemic is under control....

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 08-10-2021

(08-10-2021, 01:55 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:AZ are taking profits when the pandemic is under control....
I think they publicly stated they "Reserved the right to take profits once the pandemic was under control", but it's a bit meaningless in the context of what is happening now.

Money is motive$ ;D

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Gointocarlton - 08-10-2021

(08-10-2021, 01:50 AM)LP link Wrote:For those of you who wonder why the political and social media war of words relating to efficacy and safety or AZ vs Pfizer, despite there being much evidence for better or safer performance form one or the other.

Pfizer / Moderna reported $9.6B profit for the year just finished.

Pfizer forecast $26B for the coming financial year, then after the various social media and political AZ backlash, Pfizer revised the forecast to $45.6B!

AZ do the vaccine at cost.
100% Correct

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Professer E - 08-10-2021

The report from Iceland is sobering -  Vaccination is purely a mitigation strategy.  We're going to have to learn to live with this bastard for a long time yet.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 08-10-2021

(08-10-2021, 03:12 AM)Professer E date Wrote:The report from Iceland is sobering -  Vaccination is purely a mitigation strategy.  We're going to have to learn to live with this bastard for a long time yet.
Yes, and Iceland has been a Pfizer/Moderna stronghold from the beginning, I think the use of Pfizer vaccine out numbers the others by at least 2:1, with AZ and Janssen also in use.

There may also be genetic diversity components coming into play here, Iceland is often a test case for some disease trials for the reason it has lower genetic diversity and some unique society wide health and wellbeing issues.

In health, one solution never fits all, and before the naysayers get on board, nobody ever claimed it did!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 08-10-2021

Politicians are pissweak in this country.

I've been browsing through some of the argy bargy going down in NSW at the moment, the bureaucrats and politicians are starting to play race and privilege cards as an excuse for not getting a handle on the outbreak sooner. They are basically victim blaming, weakly pointing the finger at the uneducated, welfare dependant English as a second language types in Western Sydney!

These are the same people the greens blame for wasting too much energy because they don't have homes full of $30 LED light bulbs, and use 30 year old electric, gas or oil heaters, and feck up the climate with wood burners and bottled gas. FFS, they still drive, and they do so by using cars which run on petrol or diesel.

Those poor people, can't live with them it seems, better to be a green activist living off annual $150K government arts grants!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Thryleon - 08-10-2021

(08-10-2021, 04:33 AM)LP link Wrote:Politicians are pissweak in this country.

I've been browsing through some of the argy bargy going down in NSW at the moment, the bureaucrats and politicians are starting to play race and privilege cards as an excuse for not getting a handle on the outbreak sooner. They are basically victim blaming, weakly pointing the finger at the uneducated, welfare dependant English as a second language types in Western Sydney!

These are the same people the greens blame for wasting too much energy because they don't have homes full of $30 LED light bulbs, and use 30 year old electric, gas or oil heaters, and feck up the climate with wood burners and bottled gas. FFS, they still drive, and they do so by using cars which run on petrol or diesel.

Those poor people, can't live with them it seems, better to be a green activist living off annual $150K government arts grants!

Without wanting to go over old ground, we did similar last year with certain communities and the lock down responses.

I have also seen some people comment this year about our recent outbreak, and certain cultural traditions.



Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-10-2021

(08-10-2021, 02:34 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:100% Correct
(08-10-2021, 02:18 AM)LP link Wrote:I think they publicly stated they "Reserved the right to take profits once the pandemic was under control", but it's a bit meaningless in the context of what is happening now.

Money is motive$ ;D
....Novavax I believe are struggling with Production and there are rumors the USA Govt have pulled funding on them but also talk Pfizer have been pressuring the Govt for that money as well as they have the largest Production setup and want to get the Monopoly on vaccines world wide.
Pfizer will do anything to make some coin and are always in court defending their products and dodgy business tactics...