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Re: If Not BB, Who? - Lods - 04-19-2019
Not sure it's aa frenzy.
If it were a frenzy we'd be demanding something immediately.
I think most supporters are prepared to wait until the end of the season for a transparent evaluation.
Re: If Not BB, Who? - kruddler - 04-19-2019
(04-19-2019, 02:29 AM)Lods link Wrote:Not sure it's aa frenzy.
If it were a frenzy we'd be demanding some thing immediately.
Looks that way from where i'm sitting.
Vocal minority is getting mighty loud.
Re: bolton - Baggers - 04-19-2019
(04-18-2019, 06:48 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:This is my point, a proper review is unlikely to mean sacking the coach but just adjusting how he goes about his role as well as others......I think we are at the crossroads now, not in 2020.
Walls has been appointed as a babysitter and its not working, we are 3 wins from 36 games, the so called easybeats Gold Coast have three wins and have just beaten us.
Kreuzer and Docherty as saviours?.....both have been missed greatly but look at the future, Kreuzer is nearing the end and our backups cant cut it. Docherty is coming off a 2nd knee reco and
we need an insurance plan if he doesnt come up.
The other problem I have is the level of improvement, we might be improving but this year other so called poor performers have lifted their game and looking more advanced than we are.
The game plan is undefined and we rely purely on individual efforts rather than team work. We are horrible at the basics, kicking, decision making, fundamental errors are par for the course and accepted.
What other sporting organisation would tolerate this level of performance without making changes....?
Ripper stuff, EB1. Nothing missed. Your... "The game plan is undefined and we rely purely on individual efforts rather than team work." ...so nails our side.
Re: If Not BB, Who? - Lods - 04-19-2019
(04-19-2019, 02:34 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Looks that way from where i'm sitting.
Vocal minority is getting mighty loud.
I'm not seeing it the same way.
Questions are being asked....but there is still a fair bit of "wait and see"
Perceptions a funny thing and we tend to overestimate the resistance to our point of view.
It seems 'louder' because we concentrate on the vocal opposition
Maybe we should run a poll.
Re: If Not BB, Who? - kruddler - 04-19-2019
(04-19-2019, 02:40 AM)Lods link Wrote:I'm not seeing it the same way.
Questions are being asked....but there is still a fair bit of "wait and see"
Perceptions a funny thing and we tend to overestimate the resistance to our point of view.
It seems 'louder' because we concentrate on the vocal opposition
Maybe we should run a poll.
Hence why i keep bringing up the 'vocal MINORITY'.
I reckon most people are in favour of Bolton staying for now, and its ok for questions to be asked, but what is going on now reminds me of the start of the Pagan 'hall of shame' era.
That is...
We got done by the premiers today - because Pagan doesn't have a game plan and has lost the players.
We got done by 10 goals today - because Pagan doesn't have a game plan and has lost the players.
We couldn't kick straight today - because Pagan doesn't have a game plan and has lost the players.
Play x was a late out today - because Pagan doesn't have a game plan and has lost the players.
We lost the toss today - because Pagan doesn't have a game plan and has lost the players.
Every post that is made in where someone is critical of something that happened, the answer is inevitably, Boltons fault.
Re: If Not BB, Who? - PaulP - 04-19-2019
(04-19-2019, 02:40 AM)Lods link Wrote:I'm not seeing it the same way.
Questions are being asked....but there is still a fair bit of "wait and see"
Perceptions a funny thing and we tend to overestimate the resistance to our point of view.
It seems 'louder' because we concentrate on the vocal opposition
Maybe we should run a poll.
You'd get a small sample space. Only the regular posters and some others. This site has 826 members, and you might get 50, maybe 100 votes. And there's 56000? CFC members. It certainly costs nothing and doesn't take any time to set up a poll. Just not sure what it would prove.
Re: If Not BB, Who? - kruddler - 04-19-2019
(04-19-2019, 02:48 AM)PaulP link Wrote:You'd get a small sample space. Only the regular posters and some others. This site has 826 members, and you might get 50, maybe 100 votes. And there's 56000? CFC members. It certainly costs nothing and doesn't take any time to set up a poll. Just not sure what it would prove.
You'd struggle to get much past 50 voters.
Even then, would it matter if 90% of them wanted Bolton gone?
12 months ago, 90% wanted Buckley gone.
24 months ago, 90% wanted Hardwick gone.
....
Re: If Not BB, Who? - PaulP - 04-19-2019
(04-19-2019, 02:50 AM)kruddler link Wrote:You'd struggle to get much past 50 voters.
Even then, would it matter if 90% of them wanted Bolton gone?
12 months ago, 90% wanted Buckley gone.
24 months ago, 90% wanted Hardwick gone.
....
Yes, too true. Points that I made in another post about supporters seeing the past without having a sense of the future.
Re: bolton - cookie2 - 04-19-2019
(04-19-2019, 02:15 AM)kruddler link Wrote:I think people are getting themselves worked up in a frenzy here.
At the end of this season there will be a review, for sure. You know what, i'm pretty sure every club does a review at the end of every season. It's expected.
You review the playing list every year as you need to cut/sign/trade/draft players.
You review the coaching group as its almost unheard of for 1 group to be unchanged from 1 year to the next.
You review all areas of the club.
Given we've only recently come up with our 5 year plan, you'd consider those goals and expectations were come up with based on a review of where we are, and where we want to be and what needs to happen to achieve them. You'd think that each and every year we'd review our current position to see how we are tracking with our goals.
You'd also like to think that you would review all previous reviews to work out what went right and what went wrong in your past review, to make your future reviews more accurate.
Review, review, review.
Bit of a buzzword at the moment don't you think?
Bee is also a buzzword. Bee Bee are two buzzwords?
Re: If Not BB, Who? - Lods - 04-19-2019
(04-19-2019, 02:48 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Hence why i keep bringing up the 'vocal MINORITY'.
I reckon most people are in favour of Bolton staying for now, and its ok for questions to be asked, but what is going on now reminds me of the start of the Pagan 'hall of shame' era.
That is...
We got done by the premiers today - because Pagan doesn't have a game plan and has lost the players.
We got done by 10 goals today - because Pagan doesn't have a game plan and has lost the players.
We couldn't kick straight today - because Pagan doesn't have a game plan and has lost the players.
Play x was a late out today - because Pagan doesn't have a game plan and has lost the players.
We lost the toss today - because Pagan doesn't have a game plan and has lost the players.
Every post that is made in where someone is critical of something that happened, the answer is inevitably, Boltons fault.
Funnily enough these are some of the reactions I expected a year ago.
It comes with the coaching territory to a large extent
The longer you go without success the greater it becomes.
Initially it's just one or two voices, then a few more join the chorus....it's only a matter of time before the 'vocal minority' becomes the 'vocal majority'
That's when it's over.
There's only one way to stop that ride down the slippery slope.
You can't sack and replace an entire list (although we've given it a good try)
Assistants ,who should bear a large part of the blame, get overlooked because the buck stops with the head coach.
Bolton's longevity is largely dependent on his alliances in the club.
Again though I'm not seeing your last sentence as correct.
Folks don't all believe everything that's wrong is Bolton's fault
I'd also expect any poll we undertook wouldn't advocate his replacement in the short term.