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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 07-25-2021

(07-25-2021, 07:20 AM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:I think I heard correctly, news reports that new modelling out of the US predicting back up to 800+ deaths a day from Delta by October. Daily cases are driving towards 43,000, not good.
The US is a unique problem, due to the low vaccine uptake in some regions and the widely varying management of the epidemic along state lines, before Gladys was set upon us I thought we were in a much better place here in Oz, but I'm afraid that has been exposed as folly! However, despite the late action, our states are not as openly defiant as some US regions.

The world gets to sit by and observe a first hand Full HD web stream real-time experiment of some US regions letting it loose!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Professer E - 07-25-2021

Count me as well Cap... Just because you're an ex-sportsman with the means to voice an opinion doesn't mean you deserve to be heard.  He who can shout loudest doth a cogent argument maketh.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 07-25-2021

(07-25-2021, 07:35 AM)Professer E date Wrote:He who can shout loudest doth a cogent argument maketh.
OMG, I've been so so wrong about Bolt, Jones, Trump and many many others! ;D

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - PaulP - 07-25-2021

(07-25-2021, 06:25 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Dont disagree on Peter Fitzsimons views on Jones and Kelly, they are unqualified to be giving those opinions and Sky shouldnt be airing them...the irrelevant section did make me laugh, where Fitzsimons bags out Jeff Bezos and other large scale entrepreneurs for indulging in some spacecraft recreation and references the rich and the poor argument.
Of course he didnt or forgot to mention he drives a very expensive Tesla and that the proceeds of that purchase went to another  Space Voyager entrepreneur in Elon Musk and that both Peter and his overpaid TV personality wife who likes her coin are probably one of the few who can afford such a new age Electric car. I guess if you are going to do your bit for the planet then Peter and Lisa want to do it in style but we wont tell those poor folk that Jeff and Elon are meant to have overlooked.

This probably isn't the place to be advocating for first class, global mass transportation systems in lieu of private cars, nor is it the place to go one better and advocate the New Urbanism model for urban design.

FitzSimons and his ilk don't bother me too much. He is undoubtedly a Champagne Socialist, but more often than not he makes sense and he at least tries.

If we must have private modes of transport, electric cars are a worthwhile effort IMO, a nascent technology with plenty of room for improvement. And hopefully the prices come down soon.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Gointocarlton - 07-25-2021

(07-25-2021, 07:20 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I think I heard correctly, news reports that new modelling out of the US predicting back up to 800+ deaths a day from Delta by October. Daily cases are driving towards 43,000, not good.
They also said worst case could be 240K cases and 4000 deaths a day.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Thryleon - 07-25-2021

The USA is a very different beast thanks largely to their private healthcare networks and lack of public health care.

Its a combination that produces different results particularly if it generates additional profits.

I think the UK is a better case study because the NHS is closer to Medicare for us.



Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Baggers - 07-25-2021

(07-25-2021, 07:35 AM)Professer E link Wrote:He who can shout loudest doth a cogent argument maketh.

Empty vessels make the most noise. The squeaky wheel gets the oil... nothing like some juicy sayings/cliches on a crisp Monday morning.

Ah, the information age... a gradual lesson in discerning the difference between shyte and shinola...

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Baggers - 07-25-2021

Just read how this Delta strain of Covid is hitting NSW, and spoke to a Doc buddy on the ground dealing with it. Seems Delta is far more democratic and claims lives and causes serious illnesses in most age groups. We 'olds' were beginning to feel expendable by some folks advocating... "Hey, just let it rip..."

I read the story of the 38 year old woman with no health issues who tragically passed away from Covid in NSW. I was so glad that a paper took it upon themselves to publish a story that emphasized that the numbers we see, which we can easily become anesthetized to, is actually, every single time, a person (regardless of age) with dreams, hopes, loving relationships and so on.

Seems also that in NSW the ICUs are filling up fast and already being tested - spoke to a Doc buddy in Mosman who is seeing first hand what's happening and how many just from his practice and other practices he knows, are headed to ICUs. Didn't someone here suggest that there are FA people in ICUs and that Covid was not as dangerous as the vaccines? (The 38 year old woman had not been vaccinated I learned from him).

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 07-25-2021

(07-25-2021, 10:20 PM)Baggers date Wrote:Empty vessels make the most noise. 
Is that wise words from a submariner?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 07-25-2021

(07-25-2021, 11:20 PM)Baggers date Wrote:Seems also that in NSW the ICUs are filling up fast and already being tested - spoke to a Doc buddy in Mosman who is seeing first hand what's happening and how many just from his practice and other practices he knows, are headed to ICUs.
This is always going to be the problem, the virus spreads exponentially growing demand for COVID-19 resources exponentially. I hope for everyone's sake they don't hit the tipping point, because that will trigger the Federal Health system equivalent of an SOS!

The side effects of the vaccine grow linearly not exponentially, our hospitals can far more easily deal with the side-effects of the vaccine, provided they aren't overrun with COVID-19 patients. You don't have to isolate people with vaccine side-effects, they won't infect the staff, you don't have to put anywhere near as many of them into an ICU and in most cases they'll recover with no long term side-effects! Further as each week passes, the health authorities are getting better at detecting and treating the vaccine side effects, so we see the serious case number dropping.

I feel for friends and associates in the State and Federal Authorities, some of them are currently policing borders, it's not something they want to do and not something they signed up for, but they are forced into the chaos unleashed on Australia by the inaction of the NSW State Government. I've heard the armed forces have war gamed the setup and placement of field hospitals, they are seriously considering getting COVID-19 patients out of the public system so they keep the public system as sterile as possible, the armed forces have the kit, it's basically the same kit they use for chemical or biological warfare defence.