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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - kruddler - 07-24-2021

(07-24-2021, 09:51 AM)Mav link Wrote:If a pilot develops epilepsy or diabetes, he’s out of a job. If a coach can’t or won’t comply with a measure intended to protect his team and the NFL, isn’t he out of a job?
If he is potentially physically unable to comply....should he be out of the job? Its not as if it was in their job description when they took the job.
If it is against someones religion to do something, are they sacked too?




Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Thryleon - 07-24-2021

I worry more about the shocking precedent this sets.

Forcing a vaccine will result in a greater number of anti vaxxers as people already disbelieve.

Give them time, let them come to terms that covid is here to stay and let natural selection take its course.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - kruddler - 07-24-2021

(07-24-2021, 09:45 AM)Mav link Wrote:Rick Dennison: https://www.espn.com.au/nfl/story/_/id/31869652/rick-dennison-minnesota-vikings-assistant-refusing-covid-19-vaccine-sources-say

But the story doesn’t appear on HuffPost any more. Maybe debunked?

I didn't see this post when i replied before, but it confirms what i suggested.
Quote:In a memo released by the league this summer, the NFL said any unvaccinated Tier 1 staff member must provide a valid religious or medical reason for not receiving the vaccine. Losing Tier 1 status prohibits coaches from being on the field and in meeting rooms and having direct interactions with players.

Interesting side note that this does not apply to players though.

I guess money talks.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-24-2021

(07-24-2021, 01:43 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:I worry more about the shocking precedent this sets.

Forcing a vaccine will result in a greater number of anti vaxxers as people already disbelieve.

Give them time, let them come to terms that covid is here to stay and let natural selection take its course.
Agree, More people will embrace the vaccines when there is more choice for all age groups, if you have 3-4 to choose from instead of being railroaded into one because of your age then citizens will feel in control of their own destiny.
Having a medically unqualified PM going against his vaccine advisory groups medical advice and pushing one vaccine to suit his political and economic agenda isnt going to fly in a country with low infection levels. Either is telling a citizen who is 60 and one day old you cant have the same vaccine as a citizen who is 59 and 364 days old...



Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - madbluboy - 07-24-2021

We don't have to worry about antivaxers, would only be about 5 percent of the population. I only know of one couple who wouldn't vaccinate their kids because they believe it causes autism. The irony is their youngest's school was pressuring them to see a pediatrician as they believed he was on the spectrum.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Gointocarlton - 07-24-2021

(07-24-2021, 02:41 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Agree, More people will embrace the vaccines when there is more choice for all age groups, if you have 3-4 to choose from instead of being railroaded into one because of your age then citizens will feel in control of their own destiny.
Having a medically unqualified PM going against his vaccine advisory groups medical advice and pushing one vaccine to suit his political and economic agenda isnt going to fly in a country with low infection levels. Either is telling a citizen who is 60 and one day old you cant have the same vaccine as a citizen who is 59 and 364 days old...
I don't know thats true about the PM going against advisory groups. The advice from ATAGI has always been to consult your GP with all vaccines, IIRC that's what the both the PM and Andrews said when it was suggested that younger people could get AZ if they wanted to. Re the 60 +/- 1 day, I remember both an AMA guy and an ATAGI or TGA rep saying its a line in the sand they had to draw, that is they had to pick a number (with some science) but speak to your GP.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - capcom - 07-24-2021

I know these demos are giving me the irrits.  It's a very bad look for law and order.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 07-24-2021

(07-24-2021, 01:43 PM)Thryleon date Wrote:Give them time, let them come to terms that covid is here to stay and let natural selection take its course.
Bad luck for those who legitimately can't get vaccination, they risk greater harm for the preservation of rights for the deniers!

No accountability for making a choice that harms others, didn't [member=122]Mav[/member] already take you through this?

The freedom of choice can be preserved, but with consequences when that choice harms others.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-24-2021

(07-24-2021, 10:23 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I don't know thats true about the PM going against advisory groups. The advice from ATAGI has always been to consult your GP with all vaccines, IIRC that's what the both the PM and Andrews said when it was suggested that younger people could get AZ if they wanted to. Re the 60 +/- 1 day, I remember both an AMA guy and an ATAGI or TGA rep saying its a line in the sand they had to draw, that is they had to pick a number (with some science) but speak to your GP.
That was pushing the responsibility onto GPs, you go to a GP and they only give you the pros and cons, they don't want to make hard recommendations.
The advice was no AZ for under 60s from ATAGI, it was Scomo who pushed for younger people to have it and not ATAGI even with GP advice.. He has been lobbying them to change their advice officially.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Gointocarlton - 07-24-2021

(07-24-2021, 11:35 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:That was pushing the responsibility onto GPs, you go to a GP and they only give you the pros and cons, they don't want to make hard recommendations.
The advice was no AZ for under 60s from ATAGI, it was Scomo who pushed for younger people to have it and not ATAGI even with GP advice.. He has been lobbying them to change their advice officially.
Mine did.