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Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-26-2024
(07-26-2024, 01:13 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:Yep if you ever wondered who the number 1 ruck was that question has been more than answered. Pittonet is a C grade footballer.Have to agree.....Sweet is a C grade ruckman and Pittonet lowered his colours in the hitouts and had no real effect around the ground either and we just cant afford to lose TDK's contribution in the middle getting clearances. Not scrappy clearances that are just stats but the meaningful ones at critical times when he bursts through the centre and sends the ball forward quickly.
Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide - kruddler - 07-26-2024
(07-26-2024, 12:50 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:At the ground I thought Pittonrt was useless. Charlie was well beaten.weitering beat Dixon but not much else.
Charlie had...
- 2nd for m gained - 547m gained. (McGovern had 553m, next best was cripps with 370m and Walsh with 358m)
- most inside 50s - 6
- most contested marks - 3
- most goals - 3
- most fantasy points on the ground (afl app) - 113.
Well beaten??
Pittonet had...
- =2nd clearances - 5 (cripps 9, Walsh and Hewett 5)
- =4th in contested marks - 1
- 232m gained which was twice as much as saad. 3 times as much as Hewett. And better than 8 other Carlton players including cottrell.
- more disposals, more inside 50s, more clearances, more m gained than his direct opponent.
(Some stats still not loaded yet but there will be more)
So he did his job as well.
Now, my comments were based off what I saw.
I only went OK the stats to justify it because I'm not sure what you saw.
Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide - madbluboy - 07-26-2024
Carlton lost who cares.
Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide - shawny - 07-26-2024
(07-26-2024, 01:03 PM)laj link Wrote:JSOS, Acres, Williams, Martin too would be handy.
I just don't understand how we can play one qtr the last few weeks that is premiership material then not fire a shot for the rest. Like after we do that we are cooked and sides just run over us. Up until 4 weeks ago getting run over by sides just never happened. If we were a few goals up, then the other side kicked a few, we'd lift and burying them unmercifully. Now we just get run over and crash after that one random qtr of brilliance.
Seriously martin? Never plays.
JSOS? Jack of all trades great back ip player but without be bias he is not a starting 18 player.
Williams ? Most on here bagged the guy except when he was moved forward - saying when we had a healthy list he is on the edge now he is one of the reasons we lose. Nope im not buying it.
If we cant beat a mid road team at home with a top 4 spot on the line we are also just a mid road team. Losers make excuses the champion teams get it done against everyone but maybe the very top. Port are not that and the team we fielded should have got it done but we failed.
It is what it is. We are now in a fight again to make the 8 and games against Pies hawks and even saints are no sure thing so unless out form improves we will drop to the bottom of the 8.
I started to foolishly believe we were better. We are not.
Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide - madbluboy - 07-26-2024
Maybe at the end of the year you can award the stat premiership to Cripps.
Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide - kruddler - 07-26-2024
(07-26-2024, 01:23 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:Maybe at the end of the year you can award the stat premiership to Cripps.Maybe, what you (thought you) saw was wrong?
No need to sook it up at me for having a different opinion that has some evidence behind it.
Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide - madbluboy - 07-26-2024
I saw Carlton get their butt handed them again.
Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide - Lods - 07-26-2024
(07-26-2024, 01:22 PM)kruddler link Wrote:Charlie had...
- 2nd for m gained - 547m gained. (McGovern had 553m, next best was cripps with 370m and Walsh with 358m)
- most inside 50s - 6
- most contested marks - 3
- most goals - 3
- most fantasy points on the ground (afl app) - 113.
Well beaten??
Pittonet had...
- =2nd clearances - 5 (cripps 9, Walsh and Hewett 5)
- =4th in contested marks - 1
- 232m gained which was twice as much as saad. 3 times as much as Hewett. And better than 8 other Carlton players including cottrell.
- more disposals, more inside 50s, more clearances, more m gained than his direct opponent.
(Some stats still not loaded yet but there will be more)
So he did his job as well.
Now, my comments were based off what I saw.
I only went OK the stats to justify it because I'm not sure what you saw.
Yep
Folks may see it differently, but Pittonet was OK and Charlie improved on recent games.
There was criticism of the criticism through the week, but Charlie has been down.
Not a great deal...but enough to have some of us considering he may be carrying an injury that has been restricting him.
He looked to be moving with a bit more freedom tonight and seemed to cover more ground. That would probably have been in part due to McKay's absence.
Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide - JonDorotich - 07-26-2024
Some facts
- we lack pace
- Pittonet, Marchbank, Young & Durdin nowhere near AFl standard
- we need so much more from Cottrell and Cerra
- O Hollands continues to make inexcusable mistakes at this level
- no team can sustain the sheer number of injury prone players on our list (Martin, Cunningham, McGovern, Marchbank, Williams)
- we lack young talent
- we have way too much salary cap invested in too few. We need to rebalance.
We’re going to need go trade heavily to rebalance the list and cut the injury prone deadwood once and for all. We’re a long way from a premiership.
Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide - laj - 07-26-2024
(07-26-2024, 01:23 PM)shawny link Wrote:Seriously martin? Never plays.
JSOS? Jack of all trades great back ip player but without be bias he is not a starting 18 player.
Williams ? Most on here bagged the guy except when he was moved forward - saying when we had a healthy list he is on the edge now he is one of the reasons we lose. Nope im not buying it.
If we cant beat a mid road team at home with a top 4 spot on the line we are also just a mid road team. Losers make excuses the champion teams get it done against everyone but maybe the very top. Port are not that and the team we fielded should have got it done but we failed.
It is what it is. We are now in a fight again to make the 8 and games against Pies hawks and even saints are no sure thing so unless out form improves we will drop to the bottom of the 8.
I started to foolishly believe we were better. We are not.
Martin starred late last year when it mattered. He was vital. While he is on our list and he's not playing then.we miss that. JSOS available a very handy, and would have been tonight with McKay out.
Pies lost R20, 21 and 23 last year, Swan's have losr 3 of their last 4. Lots of ebbs and flows, especially this year.
My issue is, the last 4 weeks, why do.we play a random qtr of premiership style football then look like we are cooked. Until then, if we got a lead and the other sides came back abit, we would just lift and bury them in 15 min Now we burst to a lead, then look like we are dead. Have to be in a hard block of training. Hopefully that part hasn't be stuffed up by Vossy. Until recently, even Carlton rarely gave up big leads and lost.