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Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - madbluboy - 06-18-2024
(06-17-2024, 09:30 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:Any word on whether Cerra will be fit this week? If so, presumably straight back in.
1 more week.
Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - PaulP - 06-18-2024
(06-18-2024, 09:07 AM)pertz link Wrote:I reckon he might need a run in the magoos first..
Yes, that sounds reasonable to me. He's been out since the 9th May, so it will be 6 weeks by the time Friday rolls around. Hard to say if the club will be tempted to roll the dice and name him.
Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - PaulP - 06-18-2024
And right on time :
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/1581033/injury-news-six-nearing-returns
Adam Cerra (hamstring)
- Back in full training
- Availability: one week
Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - PaulP - 06-18-2024
Sorry mbb, I didn't see your post.
Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - townsendcalling - 06-18-2024
I would think no change this week which is a sign of strength
(Possibly Cunningham for Carroll / Motlop for Durdin but I'd keep the stability. Pitt should play twos)
Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - WASurfer - 06-18-2024
Given their injury history, both Cunningham and Martin should be coming back through the VFL. Cerra, I'd back him in as soon as he's ready to go.
I thought Durdin looked alright when he came on last week.
We might go in unchanged again?
Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - Gointocarlton - 06-18-2024
Interesting listening to Daniel Hoyne on SEN earlier. Didn't catch it all as I wasn't in the car long but he spoke about us on two matters:
1. Long kicks Down the Line - We only win 20% of them
2. Looking for an alternative (45 kick and go around the "wall" to get I50) - We do this the 2nd least in the comp.
As I said, I didn't catch it all but what I did hear was:
- With regards to 1. he was talking about the fact we win more when we play two designated rucks.
- Harry was the go to man for 1. but hasn't been winning anywhere near enough of the contests lately.
Hoyne said it will be fascinating to see if Vossy and co. focus on 1 or 2 this week vs Geel. That is, do we bring in Pitto to address 1 or do we focus on doing 2 more.
He is fantastic to listen to when he talks strategy, I wish I had time to listen to all his segment on SEN.
Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - kruddler - 06-18-2024
(06-18-2024, 09:57 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Interesting listening to Daniel Hoyne on SEN earlier. Didn't catch it all as I wasn't in the car long but he spoke about us on two matters:
1. Long kicks Down the Line - We only win 20% of them
2. Looking for an alternative (45 kick and go around the "wall" to get I50) - We do this the 2nd least in the comp.
As I said, I didn't catch it all but what I did hear was:
- With regards to 1. he was talking about the fact we win more when we play two designated rucks.
- Harry was the go to man for 1. but hasn't been winning anywhere near enough of the contests lately.
Hoyne said it will be fascinating to see if Vossy and co. focus on 1 or 2 this week vs Geel. That is, do we bring in Pitto to address 1 or do we focus on doing 2 more.
He is fantastic to listen to when he talks strategy, I wish I had time to listen to all his segment on SEN.
Most of the time we go long, its not necessarily to win the ball. Its to not lose it.
Its easy for the defender to spoil towards the boundary and force a throw in.....or spoil to the ground and force a ball up.
Either way, a stoppage is better than a 50-50 for us as we are one of the best, if not THE best in the comp in that regard.
re 2 rucks.....obviously an extra tall makes us more likely to mark more of them.
TDKs best game for us as a forward came against Geelong earlier this year. A fact i'm sure is not lost on our MC in regards to potentially bringing in Pitto.
Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - pertz - 06-18-2024
(06-18-2024, 10:08 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Most of the time we go long, its not necessarily to win the ball. Its to not lose it.
Its easy for the defender to spoil towards the boundary and force a throw in.....or spoil to the ground and force a ball up.
Either way, a stoppage is better than a 50-50 for us as we are one of the best, if not THE best in the comp in that regard.
re 2 rucks.....obviously an extra tall makes us more likely to mark more of them.
TDKs best game for us as a forward came against Geelong earlier this year. A fact i'm sure is not lost on our MC in regards to potentially bringing in Pitto.
I heard Hoyne also on SEN, it was very interesting.
So, when we go down the line out of defence between the arcs , we only retain possession or half the contest 20% of the time.
Worst in the comp and worst for many years over the last 4 weeks.
Conversely, when we switch play from defence we are the most successful team in the comp at retaining possession. However, we only switch the play 20% of the time.
So Hoyne posed the question do we bring in Pitto to fix the down the line problem but potentially weaken our transition game or do work on switching the play more out of defence.
I'm firmly in the camp of the 2nd option.
Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - blueboys_1 - 06-18-2024
(06-18-2024, 09:57 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Interesting listening to Daniel Hoyne on SEN earlier. Didn't catch it all as I wasn't in the car long but he spoke about us on two matters:
1. Long kicks Down the Line - We only win 20% of them
2. Looking for an alternative (45 kick and go around the "wall" to get I50) - We do this the 2nd least in the comp.
As I said, I didn't catch it all but what I did hear was:
- With regards to 1. he was talking about the fact we win more when we play two designated rucks.
- Harry was the go to man for 1. but hasn't been winning anywhere near enough of the contests lately.
Hoyne said it will be fascinating to see if Vossy and co. focus on 1 or 2 this week vs Geel. That is, do we bring in Pitto to address 1 or do we focus on doing 2 more.
He is fantastic to listen to when he talks strategy, I wish I had time to listen to all his segment on SEN.
GC. You can download the SEN app and check the podcasts. I tend to do this as I don't listen live anymore as no in the car s much while WFH. I usually download it and listen to it while on my morning or afternoon walks.