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Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-05-2023
(07-05-2023, 04:00 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:LP.....Dockers have said Jackson has been playing "sore" for a couple of weeks and this has prevented him from rucking....some hip issue that's stopped him from jumping. They might still play him purely as a forward and ruck with Darcy and Treacy which is pretty much what they did last week against the Dogs.Reckon Young has to play, we can look small down back without him sometimes and his ruck work isn't that great he would be missed in that area either.
Jackson would be a difficult match up but one that might go to Weitering or even McGovern if we choose not to play Young as a defender. I'd punt on McGovern.
McGovern is too small for Jackson and Darcy imho..
Kemp will probably get Amiss who is a young leading forward, nice kick for goal and needs to be respected.
Treacy is a bit of a dud and whoever gets him might be able to give us some drive.
Brodie will probably come in to tag Cripps and I reckon Brayshaw will get Cerra which could be a match decider contest..
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - Gointocarlton - 07-05-2023
(07-05-2023, 05:26 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Reckon Young has to play, we can look small down back without him sometimes and his ruck work isn't that great he would be missed in that area either.Pretty spot on EB, I reckon this will be a tough one, my only hope is that we do ok travelling west. Might even need some Newnes type heroics after the siren.
McGovern is too small for Jackson and Darcy imho..
Kemp will probably get Amiss who is a young leading forward, nice kick for goal and needs to be respected.
Treacy is a bit of a dud and whoever gets him might be able to give us some drive.
Brodie will probably come in to tag Cripps and I reckon Brayshaw will get Cerra which could be a match decider contest..
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - kruddler - 07-05-2023
(07-05-2023, 05:26 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Reckon Young has to play, we can look small down back without him sometimes and his ruck work isn't that great he would be missed in that area either.
McGovern is too small for Jackson and Darcy imho..
Kemp will probably get Amiss who is a young leading forward, nice kick for goal and needs to be respected.
Treacy is a bit of a dud and whoever gets him might be able to give us some drive.
Brodie will probably come in to tag Cripps and I reckon Brayshaw will get Cerra which could be a match decider contest..
The only reason we should play Young in the ruck is if Jack is picked as our other ruck.
If one of Pitto or TDK are playing, use Jack. Young efforts last week were embarrassing.
Use him down back if you need him, but keep him out of the ruck....he doesn't have the intensity for it.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - LoveNavy - 07-05-2023
Brodie will probably come in to tag Cripps and I reckon Brayshaw will get Cerra which could be a match decider contest..
Serong has been in good form too.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - Baggers - 07-05-2023
What I have particularly liked about our last 2 games is that were we the hunters, and had a 'hunting the opposition' mind-set.
For a long time we've been way to reactionary, conservative and even worried about being hunted - hence losing our way under opposition (and our own above the shoulders) pressure and not being able to sustain our way, then resorting to relying on individual talent - a recipe for failure.
IF we build even further and commit even more to being the hunters (through the roof tackle nos. etc.), then I have absolutely no doubt we will account for the Dickers... and further strengthen our 'hunters' mind-set.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - Lods - 07-06-2023
Young's a concern at the moment.
He's not a ruckman, he's not physical enough.
He is a key defender, but as a key backman the physicality is also an issue and....
the defence looks better when he's not there.
I'm not sure how he turns that around....but we've given him another three years to find out.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - LP - 07-06-2023
(07-06-2023, 05:09 AM)Lods date Wrote:Young's a concern at the moment.Like SoJ, Young's fate depends on the MC, if they use him the right way and select him on a horses for courses basis he can share in some success.
He's not a ruckman, he's not physical enough.
He is a key defender, but as a key backman the physicality is also an issue and....
the defence looks better when he's not there.
I'm not sure how he turns that around....but we've given him another three years to find out.
If on the other hand they try to use him as a fix-all, for the very reasons you have outline he's cooked before he starts!
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - Gointocarlton - 07-06-2023
(07-06-2023, 05:09 AM)Lods link Wrote:Young's a concern at the moment.He was dynamite last year, I thought he was more than upgrade on Jones in defence. His only weakness seemed to be being outbodied by the monsters. His intercept stuff was very good. He is a shawdow of his former self.
He's not a ruckman, he's not physical enough.
He is a key defender, but as a key backman the physicality is also an issue and....
the defence looks better when he's not there.
I'm not sure how he turns that around....but we've given him another three years to find out.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - Thryleon - 07-06-2023
Young played his best footy when weitering wasn't there.
Perhaps the issue is to do with responsibilities.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-06-2023
It's interesting that the Dogs had Young playing down back and in the ruck but were KP defensively poor for a while and he couldn't hold down a Key defensive post hence they chased Jones.
They gave him away for nothing and we are probably starting to see why.
We need a more robust key defender and there is an obvious choice out there but I'm not paying what other Clubs will be offering as he is still a work in progress player...