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Re: RIP Queen Elizabeth II - Mav - 09-10-2022
The AFLW seems to have forgotten that Indigenous Round is just a hollow PR stunt. They’re treating it like it actually stands for something.
Re: RIP Queen Elizabeth II - Gointocarlton - 09-10-2022
(09-10-2022, 03:12 AM)Mav link Wrote:The AFLW seems to have forgotten that Indigenous Round is just a hollow PR stunt. They’re treating it like it actually stands for something.Why can't IR and a Tribute to QE2 Coxeist?
Re: RIP Queen Elizabeth II - Mav - 09-10-2022
Terra Nullius.
Re: RIP Queen Elizabeth II - Gointocarlton - 09-10-2022
(09-10-2022, 03:21 AM)Mav link Wrote:Terra Nullius.So we should all pack up and fuck off?
Re: RIP Queen Elizabeth II - ElwoodBlues1 - 09-10-2022
(09-10-2022, 02:56 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:So now the AFLW won't acknowledge the passing of a the Queen with a minutes silence in the remaining games because its Indigenous round. One and Free huh? (as long was you aren't a rednec, male, or part of the monarchy). And the AFLW players wonder why there is SFA interest in their game. Lack of leadership by the AFL here I reckon.Agree that's poor form from the AFLW, the test match between England and South Africa was suspended for a whole day in memory of the Queen and we can't do a minute?I'm not a monarchist but a bit of respect is ok by me...
Re: RIP Queen Elizabeth II - Mav - 09-10-2022
Perhaps we shouldn’t expect indigenous Australians to allow the round that recognises their culture to be repurposed as the QEII round.
At least the AFLW is able to avoid Indigenous Round coinciding with Australia Day celebrations. Perhaps they’re missing a trick there. Imagine how colourful it would be if an actor dressed as Captain Arthur Phillip and some others dressed as troopers stood behind the Welcome to Country. What a wonderful way to recognise our history and let’s not forget that the red uniforms would certainly add a lot of colour.
Re: RIP Queen Elizabeth II - LP - 09-10-2022
This decision seems asymmetrical, can you imagine the kerfuffle if the MCC or AFL ban welcome to country on the Queens Birthday round?
What if we banned Queen's Birthday round because AFL is the men's competition?
I think it exposes how disingenuous the debate has become. There would be many on both sides of this debate who are disappointed.
At best it's disrespectful, at worst it's hypocritical.
Re: RIP Queen Elizabeth II - Gointocarlton - 09-10-2022
(09-10-2022, 03:40 AM)Mav link Wrote:Perhaps we shouldn’t expect indigenous Australians to allow the round that recognises their culture to be repurposed as the QEII round.Cant understand why the AFLW didnt think of all that, you should pass the ideas on. QE2 would be have loved to have seen it.
At least the AFLW is able to avoid Indigenous Round coinciding with Australia Day celebrations. Perhaps they’re missing a trick there. Imagine how colourful it would be if an actor dressed as Captain Arthur Phillip and some others dressed as troopers stood behind the Welcome to Country. What a wonderful way to recognise our history and let’s not forget that the red uniforms would certainly add a lot of colour.
Re: RIP Queen Elizabeth II - Mav - 09-10-2022
You should be happy the AFLW made that decision. I’m sure it wasn’t a case of indigenous players and spectators just stating a weak preference but otherwise standing ready to back a decision to honour QEII to the hilt. The AFLW was obviously told there would be considerable blowback if it went down that path.
Holding a minute’s silence requires everybody to be on board. Imagine if the crowd had been largely compliant but activists played Beds are Burning, Treaty or the Sex Pistol’s God Save the Queen via portable speakers. They wouldn’t have needed concert-style speakers to thoroughly disrupt the silence.
What about if the players took a knee during, or turned their backs on, the show of respect? What about if they broke ranks and talked amongst themselves? Unlike the NFL where right-wing billionaire owners were able to boycott players who took a knee, the AFLW had no direct means to punish indigenous players and even less ability to discipline the crowd. Maybe they could have installed snipers on top of the stands with instructions to shoot anybody showing disrespect but that might have been controversial.
Such actual signs of disrespect would have caused far more controversy than merely deciding not to have a minute’s silence. Of course, FoxFooty and Ch 7 could have run packages before each game. But maybe they also thought this wouldn’t win them too many friends.
Just recognise that this decision was politically and commercially the most sensible one. It’s just bad luck for Liz that she died during Indigenous Round.
Re: RIP Queen Elizabeth II - LP - 09-10-2022
We keep being lectured by people telling us to respect other cultures, ................... but it seems the request isn't a statement of symmetry.
I'm not really a monarchist, but I respect those who are, just as I tolerate and respect and accept the welcome to country, the haka, and halal food services, but I suppose I'm motivated by unity and inclusion and not division.