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Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - Lods - 06-19-2022
You know...for all of the worries about our defensive woes...we haven't had a 100 points or over kicked against us in any game this year.
It'll probably come but so far, so good.
Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - crashlander - 06-19-2022
(06-19-2022, 01:40 AM)pinot link Wrote:Mirkov barely broke even against Sweet in the ruck. I don't think we need to rush him - coming along nicely but he is a big bloke and needs another pre season imoI rate Sweet. His best is pretty good. He hasn't got a lot of time at the Dogs and he isn't consistent, but his best is much better than most of his opponents at VFL level. I was quite happy that Mirkov broke even with him.
Another guy I rate is Sam Hayes at Port. He has similar issues to to TDK, in that he isn't hugely strong, but he is a ruck on the rise. Both he and TDK will be better in the dry. At the moment, the bull-type ruck has the advantage. Pitto is our only bull.
Darcy is a bull, which puts TDK at a big disadvantage. Tom couldn't get on top of him last year when Darcy wasn't playing so well. While Tom has improved, his confidence is not what it was a couple of weeks back. Against Sydney he could do little wrong.
With the game at Marvel, Tom will play better: the conditions suit him more. But Jack hasn't been able to influence things. I'd bring in Mirkov: he has that extra reach that spoils Darcy's ability to direct the ball. He can also out-jump Lobb. The dry track also helps him.
If the game were at the MCG, I don't think I'd try him. He doesn't have the ability to out-body his opponents yet. But the dry track gives him a better chance.
I'd be tempted tp play Silvagni in defence against Taberner. I don't think he's the man to play on Lobb. I don't think Kemp is either. Lobb has that extra height, but struggles against physical opponents. We don't have any uninjured.
Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-19-2022
(06-19-2022, 07:02 AM)crashlander link Wrote:I rate Sweet. His best is pretty good. He hasn't got a lot of time at the Dogs and he isn't consistent, but his best is much better than most of his opponents at VFL level. I was quite happy that Mirkov broke even with him.Jordan Sweet is the type of backup ruck we should pursue if the Dogs were looking to move him on, he is reasonably physical and has Pittonet type qualities in that he competes well without being a worldbeater and its surprised me why he hasnt been paired with English more and the Dogs have gone with Martin and now Schache who has no idea in the ruck imo.
Another guy I rate is Sam Hayes at Port. He has similar issues to to TDK, in that he isn't hugely strong, but he is a ruck on the rise. Both he and TDK will be better in the dry. At the moment, the bull-type ruck has the advantage. Pitto is our only bull.
Darcy is a bull, which puts TDK at a big disadvantage. Tom couldn't get on top of him last year when Darcy wasn't playing so well. While Tom has improved, his confidence is not what it was a couple of weeks back. Against Sydney he could do little wrong.
With the game at Marvel, Tom will play better: the conditions suit him more. But Jack hasn't been able to influence things. I'd bring in Mirkov: he has that extra reach that spoils Darcy's ability to direct the ball. He can also out-jump Lobb. The dry track also helps him.
If the game were at the MCG, I don't think I'd try him. He doesn't have the ability to out-body his opponents yet. But the dry track gives him a better chance.
I'd be tempted tp play Silvagni in defence against Taberner. I don't think he's the man to play on Lobb. I don't think Kemp is either. Lobb has that extra height, but struggles against physical opponents. We don't have any uninjured.
Lobb is a shizen ruckman but will bully smaller defenders, he is big unit at 206cm and 106kg and imo Young will have to take him and leave Taberner who is a better footballer to one of our other defenders who will also be giving away plenty of size and weight unless TDK is employed down back and can take Lobb and Darcy when they rotate.
Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - LP - 06-19-2022
(06-19-2022, 08:52 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Jordan Sweet is the type of backup ruck we should pursue if the Dogs were looking to move him on, he is reasonably physical and has Pittonet type qualities in that he competes well without being a worldbeater and its surprised me why he hasnt been paired with English more and the Dogs have gone with Martin and now Schache who has no idea in the ruck imo.I get the interest in Sweet, but didn't the Dogs have him behind Lewis Young in the backup ruck pecking order?
Is someone who is displaced by Schache as a ruck a viable option?
Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - kruddler - 06-19-2022
(06-19-2022, 09:40 AM)LP link Wrote:I get the interest in Sweet, but didn't the Dogs have him behind Lewis Young in the backup ruck pecking order?Sam Jacobs was displaced by Robbie Warnock and Shaun Hampson once upon a time.
Is someone who is displaced by Schache as a ruck a viable option?
Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - bmaurizio - 06-19-2022
Either J Sweet or L. Meek at Freo, should be pursed both reliable & workable Ruck options , together with Pitto will resolve a massive problem for us, strengthen our midfield immediately and alleviate pressure on our Defense.
TDK could help in as KPD or KPF ,it’s absolutely urgent that Curly Jnr looks into bring in a mature body Ruck support.
Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - RiverRat - 06-19-2022
(06-19-2022, 09:46 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Sam Jacobs was displaced by Robbie Warnock and Shaun Hampson once upon a time.
Sauce was one of a number of talented players that we didn't utilise well - no wonder he went home to SA.
Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - LP - 06-19-2022
(06-19-2022, 09:46 AM)kruddler date Wrote:Sam Jacobs was displaced by Robbie Warnock and Shaun Hampson once upon a time.So we should pick them all just in case, obviously that is untenable!
I didn't read a single forum member on here positively mention Sweet when we were into Young, and both Sweet and Young have been in the system playing together since 2018.
No matter which one we pick up, some will assert in hindsight it should have been the other, some will assert it in advance! :
Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - WASurfer - 06-20-2022
Taberner likely to come back in for them and if they go with Logue up forward it'll be nigh on impossible to man them up when Lobb is playing forward too. Probably means that Kemp just plays down back by necessity.
Is it time to throw Mirkov in? JSOS has got no chance against Lobb and is better served either as a 3rd tall or even playing behind the ball. Mirkov might not do much else other than be nuisance value but rucking JSOS just takes him away from being where he's most effective...and that's not a knock on how hard he works when asked to ruck either.
Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - LP - 06-20-2022
People are always worried about the bad stuff, they tend to see the worst case all the time.
If Freo load up on talls to "take advantage" of our bad tall defender situation, they better hit targets, because if the pill hits the deck they won't stop Saad, Doc, LoB and Boyd, even Durdin and Owies, streaming it out of our D50 almost unhindered! All we need is to ensure we have the pressure on in the midfield to affect those disposals entering our D50!
Swings and Roundabouts, there is always a way!