(08-21-2021, 01:41 PM)RiverRat link Wrote:I agree - he has had to deal with two Covid seasons, too many injuries and a shallow list that has had limited development due to the debilitation of the feeder competition.

I reckon it would be a sign of questionable integrity to replace him with Lyon, who has shown no loyalty to anyone (but himself and some selected players) before abandoning the Saints and the Dockers without so much as a backwards glance.  If the TT is to be derailed, I would only consider Clarkson as an acceptable option.

(08-21-2021, 11:43 PM)PaulP link Wrote:In the post match presser, Teague chided one of the reporters called Tom (Browne or Morris ?) for suggesting that he had lost support of the senior players. Teague said that simply isn't true, and it cut him a little deeply.

(08-22-2021, 12:43 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Lyon is a massive step up on Teague.

DT has shown himself, on multiple occasions, to be pretty much clueless come match day.

And very weak defensively.

Is that on him or his assistants?

Both.

I've seen nothing - zero, nada - to suggest DT can get us to finals, let alone a flag.

Some of the losses to lower teams were inexcusable.

Some of the match committee decisions during the year were simply inexcusable.

Lyon got both the Saints and Freo to GFs with lesser lists than we have presently.

We can attack as well as any - and have the  fire power to capitalise....

We just lack defensive structures/systems. Lyon's specialty seemingly.

(08-22-2021, 12:10 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Just on Lyon...
Nick Riewoldt spoke earlier in the week and said the players were quite shocked (he literally woke up from Surgery with Lyon at the foot of his bed to tell him first hand) but he said they understand. Without saying it, he pointed the finger squarely at the powers that be above Lyon. They either pushed him, or made it untenable for him.

I can't speak on Freo, but Riewoldt suggested there would be very much the same kind of love from the players that he gets from the Saints boys. Perhaps similar occurred there.

TBH, i think i'm warming to the idea of Ross Lyon.
He's already been at the club and knows how it works.
He is media savvy and knows how to handle questions, and can give a slap if required.
He has plenty of friends in the media which should help keep the wolves at bay and ease the pressure usually turned up on the Carlton coach.
He's had (almost) success at 2 clubs, both clubs have been basket cases otherwise.

Is there anyone more qualified to take over the role, specifically at our club.

(08-22-2021, 12:54 AM)PaulP link Wrote:You can only make a rash assessment of a coach after 50 games in 2 interrupted seasons. Neither Clarkson nor Hardwick etc. looked like flag coaches after 50 games. I disagree that the Saints and Freo lists were lesser than ours. And Harry McKay will probably start looking for a new home.

We can all see how many flags, GF's, coaches have in their past, but that's irrelevant to us. We need to know how many flags they have in their future. We've been seduced by coaches with previous success before, and got burnt, twice. The model that gives the best chance for success is right before our eyes - stability, unity and build from within, but for whatever reason, we can't see it, or refuse to embrace it.

(08-22-2021, 01:33 AM)Professer E link Wrote:With a starting spine of Jones Weitering Cripps/Walsh Chuck McKay, with handy players like Saad, Newman and Williams, plus kids like TDK,  Stocker,  Walsh,  Kemp. Owies and Honey, whomever is coach in 22 has a fair bit to work with.  No more excuses.