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Re: Pre game Promise AFL Rd 18 Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-12-2021
(07-12-2021, 08:00 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Suspect he has been assured of another year with Clarko in the wings for 2023 if needed.I'm thinking Lyon..... and Clarko picking out of Pies, GWS and maybe Suns....Hardwick is my smokey if not Lyon.
Not my way as I would stick with Teague and give him 3 years.
Re: Pre game Promise AFL Rd 18 Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG - kruddler - 07-12-2021
(07-11-2021, 08:49 PM)Professer E link Wrote:Those predictions of 11 wins for the season are looking mighty shaky. We'll struggle to field a side by the end given the current rate of attrition. Some bold coaching and selections required.
Yeah, when i wrote that it was with all things being equal and given that we were getting players back.
I think we have close to double the amount of injuries we had at the time of that prediction.
Injuries are not an excuse, they are a reason.
TBH, i thought we'd get a 10 goal loss when i heard the outs last week. Boys did us proud. They are hanging in there, but surely the finger in the dyke will eventually fail.
I just hope its not this week.
Re: Pre game Promise AFL Rd 18 Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG - Micky0 - 07-12-2021
(07-12-2021, 08:12 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I'm thinking Lyon..... and Clarko picking out of Pies, GWS and maybe Suns....Hardwick is my smokey if not Lyon.Agree.
Not my way as I would stick with Teague and give him 3 years.
Will not renew memberships if Teague goes and Lyon comes in. No way.
Re: Pre game Promise AFL Rd 18 Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG - cookie2 - 07-12-2021
(07-12-2021, 08:12 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I'm thinking Lyon..... and Clarko picking out of Pies, GWS and maybe Suns....Hardwick is my smokey if not Lyon.
Not my way as I would stick with Teague and give him 3 years.
Fair enough EB. It will likely be one of those three. The Pies will probably go hard fo Clarko IMO.
Re: Pre game Promise AFL Rd 18 Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG - Gointocarlton - 07-12-2021
(07-12-2021, 07:35 AM)laj link Wrote:Bar Essendon, all the sides above us have tough games this week. Reckon a win puts us one game out with not that tough a draw.We may as well be last, not a hope in hell of making finals, "develop" the team for next year.
Re: Pre game Promise AFL Rd 18 Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-12-2021
(07-12-2021, 08:17 AM)Micky0 link Wrote:Agree.Lyon would grind our way to finals but he himself is unproven as a Premiership coach and would need to have altered his game plan ideas to be able to formulate a plan to kick bigger scores.
Will not renew memberships if Teague goes and Lyon comes in. No way.
He understands the game well and I like his analysis work but can he coach in the modern era?
A lot of Blues fans would probably be happy with regular finals which he would probably provide and thats where the temptation is. He was a micro manager at Freo and didnt bother too much with what his assistants though , as we have seen today its a team effort now in the coaching box and poor assistants usually lead to poor results.
Lot of iffs and buts with Ross compared to Clarkson and Hardwick...
Re: Pre game Promise AFL Rd 18 Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG - laj - 07-12-2021
(07-12-2021, 08:28 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:We may as well be last, not a hope in hell of making finals, "develop" the team for next year.
If we win the 3 ones we should win and the two 50/50s we get in actually. Did the predictor and gave us those games just a logistic exercise. Being Carlton, not sure we are actually winning all those of course but that is how it stands. Might end up more 9 to 10 wins but while you are there you keep going. Anything else just reinforces our loser mentality, which is the last thing we want. More we win, the more the winning mentality starts to sink in.
Re: Pre game Promise AFL Rd 18 Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-12-2021
(07-12-2021, 08:26 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Fair enough EB. It will likely be one of those three. The Pies will probably go hard fo Clarko IMO.Cookie...Clarko looks like he has had enough and wants a retirement coaching job...looks tired of it all and when you hear him speak its about family, work life balance, could be here in Aus he says or overseas doing other things.
You and I as retiree's would know those feelings and I'd be questioning his commitment...if I have to spend extra or pander to get him to commit then I probably wouldnt be interested.
Lyon wants a premiership to define him as a great because he has an ego, and Hardwick wants a fresh start to drag back some of that respect he has lost IMHO.......
Re: Pre game Promise AFL Rd 18 Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG - PaulP - 07-12-2021
Hardwick was treading water until he got Balme, and other assistants around him to provide proper support. Unless he gets that at Carlton, he won't be a good get IMO.
Re: Pre game Promise AFL Rd 18 Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-12-2021
(07-12-2021, 08:48 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Hardwick was treading water until he got Balme, and other assistants around him to provide proper support. Unless he gets that at Carlton, he won't be a good get IMO.I think any of the big name coaches will pick their own assistants, Lyon is probably the one who cares less about assistants as he ran more of a Dictatorship and assistants to him were like handmaids....