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Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - Thryleon - 06-15-2021
Kreuzer used to be quite physical.
We aren't that team that gets the physical work over anymore.
Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - Gointocarlton - 06-15-2021
(06-15-2021, 12:11 AM)capcom link Wrote:Wow Jones would have crippled him. But Pittonet is not the kind of guy who'd hold back if it came to it ..If we had a ruckman like that, would you have him banished?
Mumford is a low order animal
Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - capcom - 06-15-2021
(06-15-2021, 12:19 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:If we had a ruckman like that, would you have him banished?
The truth GTC ? Yes.
EDIT - I don't like deliberate violence in any form. He stands guilty on that charge in what, after all, is a sport. Retribution though is fine btw.
Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-15-2021
(06-15-2021, 12:14 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Kreuzer used to be quite physical.I still think other teams regard us as physically weak, its just there are cameras everywhere now and you have to be careful how you tackle. We still dont have consistency in putting the body on the line and having a young player like Sam Walsh who never lets you down in that area shines the light on a few others that do...
We aren't that team that gets the physical work over anymore.
We have gentle giants like Harry and Levi who dont really get physical enough and until we get some players who like it rough and hard we will continue to be prey for other clubs who play a heavy brand..
Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - Gointocarlton - 06-15-2021
(06-15-2021, 12:24 AM)capcom link Wrote:The truth GTC ? Yes.Fair enough, I personally dont think he is voilent per se`. Does he push the boundaries when being physical? Absolutely. Id have someone like him (ie physicality) in a heart beat.
EDIT - I don't like deliberate violence in any form. He stands guilty on that charge in what, after all, is a sport. Retribution though is fine btw.
Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - PaulP - 06-15-2021
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/06/13/is-it-time-for-the-afl-to-put-shane-mumford-on-notice/
Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - Gointocarlton - 06-15-2021
(06-15-2021, 01:27 AM)PaulP link Wrote:https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/06/13/is-it-time-for-the-afl-to-put-shane-mumford-on-notice/Everyone is on notice, the game will change again forever at the tribunal for Mackay case on Thurs night. I notice a high number of dangerous tackles paid this weekend even though the player being tackled bounced up uninjured. Contact and roughness of any sort will slowly be outlawed from the game. Both Scott and Goodwin said as much on 360 last night, they are already coaching it into their players. Teague doesnt have to worry about this with our blokes in general.
Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - Thryleon - 06-15-2021
(06-15-2021, 01:33 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Everyone is on notice, the game will change again forever at the tribunal for Mackay case on Thurs night. I notice a high number of dangerous tackles paid this weekend even though the player being tackled bounced up uninjured. Contact and roughness of any sort will slowly be outlawed from the game. Both Scott and Goodwin said as much on 360 last night, they are already coaching it into their players. Teague doesnt have to worry about this with our blokes in general.
I think we are already coaching for that style. Ive noticed that we wrap blokes up in the tackle and dont necessarily take them to ground.
I think its a misnomer, because you still see stacks on. I noticed one WC vs Richmond on Sunday where Darling had his leg trapped, and was forced backwards.
That was more dangerous than a lot of the heavy dumps, but they had more scope to cause head hits...
Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - cookie2 - 06-15-2021
Trying to change a full on contact sport whose culture has always included 100% attack on the ball with no regard for your own safety to one where caution and hesitancy are required sounds like mission impossible to me - even a recipe for disaster? We'll see I guess, but the whole essence of the game is in danger of being lost imo, and it's old northern nickname of "aerial ping pong" may prove to have been prophetic?
Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-15-2021
(06-15-2021, 01:58 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Trying to change a full on contact sport whose culture has always included 100% attack on the ball with no regard for your own safety to one where caution and hesitancy are required sounds like mission impossible to me - even a recipe for disaster? We'll see I guess, but the whole essence of the game is in danger of being lost imo, and it's old northern nickname of "aerial ping pong" may prove to have been prophetic?The AFL and Rugby League are tuning the game to suit public perception and whats on trend. Concussion long term effects are topical and wont be going away as more medical research comes to light and more players are diagnosed with issues.
No contact sport will want legal issues either and the game of AFL is going to become less of a physical spectacle in terms of bumps, tackling and we are probably watching the last era of full contact AFL.