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Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney - rocky - 05-30-2021
It's just a joke how we refuse to try something different. Gibbons getting another game was ridiculous. Levi being bought back was ridiculous. Teague threw TDK into the ruck in the 3rd, got us going and then started Pitt at the centre bounce in the last. Ridiculous.
Newman was a disaster today.
Setterfield had about 10 good minutes.
Cottrell played well early and then dropped right off.
Owies quiet
Saad very quiet by his standards
Williams had patches but generally quiet.
Doc a shocker.
Fogarty a shocker.
Pitt just doesn't do enough. I'd rather just play TDK on the ball all game and if he needs a rest use a mid-size swap ala Richmond.
Stocker really had an average day but he gets creds cause he has some mongrel at least. Frankly I'd just play him in the guts
Where to go from here. I'd experiment with some guys. Time to see if they are really up to it.
Dow, if he isn't injured, should be played. Never should have been dropped in the first place.
Honey has been in the emergencies for 2 weeks. time he gets a run.
Kennedy has been way, way better in the VFL than Setterfield so why shouldn't he be given a run.
In fact the Kemp highlights from last week were enough for me. Throw him in.
I really don't know where we go from here.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney - PaulP - 05-30-2021
(05-30-2021, 08:38 AM)rocky link Wrote:Mate, not only them. 5 years ago Essenscum were last on the ladder and Brisbane were second last!! 4 years ago the Lions won the spoon. Now they're in contention for a flag while we languish in the same bottom 6.
If you embark on a massive, scorched earth rebuild, plus change 2 coaches in that time, plus change list manager twice, plus change CEO, plus change high performance manager, and all the rest, you end up with a club struggling for stability and continuity. Our players link up like Foreign Legionnaires because that's exactly what they are. You will not find anywhere near the number of changes at Lions or Bombers.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney - kruddler - 05-30-2021
(05-30-2021, 08:07 AM)Spanner link Wrote:Jesus Kruddler. Are the official Carlton apologist?
If you refuse to acknowledge the crapness at all levels of the club, that's fine. But let others comment on what they see and to be honest what most see, bar you. crap skills, crap game plan and crap coaching.
The same crap week after week... It ain't no fluke...
I refuse to accept the crapness at all levels that you and bignic harp on about because it is NOT at all levels.
There are plenty of positives. Getting a giant broom and sweeping through the whole joint does not help as we'd be getting rid of a lot of the good as well.
THat is my issue with blokes like you and big nic. Sack the lot of them.
It doesn't do anyone any favours.
If you want to improve, start with the worst, and work your way up.
From today...
Gibbons.....yes subbed out, probably lucky to have been picked in the first place. Hamstring or not, he needs a go in the 2nds.
Cottrell....has been giving us SFA for a while now....back to the 2's.
Newnes was sent packing, and he has been more consistent than those 2.
Casboult i thought was good for team balance.....but still isn't fit enough for us, so back to the 2's he goes as well.
Martin gets a 1-week pass because he hasn't played in 2 months. But he needs to lift.
A few others will be next in line once we work through that list. Setterfield being near the top of that list.
So who comes in?
Not a lot to choose from, but Honey would be one. If Dow is fit, he is another one. I'd bring Newnes back as we don't want to go too young and inexperienced all at once, but he could be one of the first ones to go out again.
By all means, criticise the club.....but saying EVERYONE MUST GO is simply ignorant.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-30-2021
Brisbane have gone well past us but I'll reserve my opinion on Essendon.....still relying on unpredictable types like Stringer to win them games and I dont think Merrett, Parish, Heppell, Shiel etc are my idea of a finals winning midfield setup.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney - Gointocarlton - 05-30-2021
(05-30-2021, 08:55 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Think it will be Teague, cant see Liddle knifing one of his inner crew like Lloyd...lose to West Coast and the wheels might start turning for a new coach. I wouldnt sack Teague and dont think its his fault we have struggled this season but we know the Carlton way is to axe the coach first and he is under real pressure to deliver a positive win ratio for the rest of the season.The season is dead and buried mate, the heat has started but I reckon Lloyd and the assistants must go first.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney - madbluboy - 05-30-2021
There wouldn't be one Carlton supporter here that would have said 13th is acceptable.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney - flyboy77 - 05-30-2021
It was a guaranteed loss when Levi got picked....not blaming him by the way.
DT and crew have f... all idea.
Plowman out, no Parks? WTF.
Murphy had a good game last week, Gibbo been laying shite....Gibbo picked.
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney - JonDorotich - 05-30-2021
Line in the sand game
I’d say Teague is very close to gone along with slew of assistants.
Unfortunately we’ve got very little depth but we can now use the rest of the year as a trial for our high potential younger players on the edge of the team - think SPS, Honey and Dow. Tell them we’ll play them in the 1s for the rest of the year and let’s see what they’ve got once and for all.
At this stage, acknowledging that we may be forced to out of necessity, we gain and learn nothing playing the likes of Casboult, Murphy, Newnes, Gibbons, Plowman etc
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney - madbluboy - 05-30-2021
(05-30-2021, 09:02 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Brisbane have gone well past us but I'll reserve my opinion on Essendon.....still relying on unpredictable types like Stringer to win them games and I dont think Merrett, Parish, Heppell, Shiel etc are my idea of a finals winning midfield setup.
The lion were the team we started rebuilding the same time as. We laughed because we got Weitering and they got Schache. Didn't matter in the end.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney - laj - 05-30-2021
(05-30-2021, 09:02 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:The season is dead and buried mate, the heat has started but I reckon Lloyd and the assistants must go first.
Watch us kill it during the 2nd half of the year when the pressure is off and no reason to $hit our pants in important situations.
Issues are lapses and the ability to handle pressure in important games. Like late last year when finals beckoned and we $hit our pants in big last qtrs. Twice this year, dogs and Swans, 3 times last year against Geelong, early in the year, which we held on to win by 2pts after a 7 goal lead, Collingwood and GWS in consecutive games late in the year when finals beckoned. Fix those and we'd be a finals teams. We need alot more to take a step after that though.
We just don't get hammered. Only 2 defeats over 5 goals under Teague, which is way better than previous, but we seem happy being entertaining losers without the drive to want to take the next step. After 20 years that losers mentality is caked right in to their mindset.