(09-19-2020, 12:52 PM)capcom date Wrote:Who's the better player to have kept?  Simpson or Polson?  Don't answer that.

(09-19-2020, 12:52 PM)capcom link Wrote:Who's the better player to have kept?  Simpson or Polson?  Don't answer that.

(09-19-2020, 12:56 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Polson is just not good enough.  He isn't the whipping boy, plowman is.  Plowman was our best if not second best tonight.

(09-19-2020, 12:58 PM)shawny link Wrote:Cas should be on the trade table imo. Don’t need him. I have a soft spot for him as I think he plays for the jumper more then most bit while he still has some value this is the last year we will get some th info for him.

He is pretty hopeless when it comes to roaming a forward line with other tall forwards. Too often he spoils a marking contest with Harry as he gets involved when he should not go up. If Charlie is back in next year and with TDK I can’t see a spot for him except as a back up. I would take the risk and put him on the trade table.

Back on tonight’s game Walsh is a guy running star in the making if not one already. So rapt we have him. Martin is also a much better player then I have him credit for. Os willing to do the hard stuff and is very creative with ball in hand.
Thought Kennedy works hard all night and how we retain him.

(09-19-2020, 12:59 PM)Thryleon date Wrote:Its amazing.  Casboult was on tonight.  Threw his weight around and was doing well until he lost that marking contest against neale.  After that he went into his shell and was a lost cause.

(09-19-2020, 12:53 PM)bignic link Wrote:Final thoughts,after missing the finals AGAIN!!

PLEASE Mark Murphy, do the right thing by the club and retire.

He can't stick a tackle to save his life. His shoulders are stuffed and he's afraid of a dislocation. He had his jaw broken, and doesn't want it to happen again so he skirts packs rather than go in hard. Add to that his decision making and the little kicks he does which  are disastrous for the team, and only selfishness would make him play on.

Eddie is gone. Ambassador for the club, great. Playing next year, no way.

Here are some others that haven't got it. By that I mean, football brains, the courage to tackle and tackle hard, and general ability to play the game at the highest level.

Cunningham. He gave us one good game this year, and that's all we got out of him, and we won't get any more. He missed a tackle in the last quarter and stood in the centre of the ground not even bothering to chase. That's him in a nutshell.
Poulson, not up to it. OK reserves player, nothing more.
Petrevski Seaton, tackling virtually non existent against opponents bigger than him. Doesn't want to get hurt. We don't get enough out of him. He isn't good enough to win us a game.

Williamson must learn to kick with his right foot.  Simpson did. If he can't, he's no good to us because he's too predictable. Simmo never was.
Mcgovern, getting 700 large a year, to stand there. It's actually sickening to watch his virtual non participation.

Plowman, as Jack Dyer used to say, a good ordinary player. But he's a turnover merchant and too easily out bodied.
Gibbons, can't kick, and the big boys find him out. Another one who won't win you a flag.
Dow, too weak, hasn't built up physically, and can't kick.

There are more, but those are the ones that come to mind at the moment.

So, the fact is, that it is a miracle that we won 7 games, and came close in others, carrying so many passengers.

The good.
Obviously, Cripps, Walsh, Mackay, Weitering, the Curnows, hopefully Charlie is back bigger than ever next year. Levi has been good, but is 31 next year.  So is Ed Curnow,  but he's a different type of player with at least two more decent years in him.
We need more out of Jack Martin, hopefully he will have an injury free year, but the class and ability is there.

Bottom line.
Get rid of the passengers, the blokes who won't go in, the ones  who can't stick a tackle, the ones who will look at who is  coming towards them as they go to pick up the ball, rather than picking it up first and being prepared to take the hit if and when it comes.

We need to be ruthless at the trade table.
We need coaches who can actually teach our players  the skills of the game, so that they hit targets rather than continuously turn the ball over.
And we need Teague, to be less of a mate, and more of a bastard to the players when they don't perform and not make excuses for them.

I really believe having supported this club for 67 years, that we aren't far away, but they have to be ruthless.
67,000 plus decided that they would become members this year. A record.

They did it, because they actually believed that we were not only  headed in the right direction, but that playing in finals this year was a real possibility.

If the club allow emotion to over-rule common sense and refuse to make the hard uncompromising decisions to take the club forward, many thousands of those 67,000 will disappear, never to be members again.

It starts at the exit interviews on Monday, goes to the draft and the trade period and onto the pre-season where the team needs to be vastly improved skill and tackling ability wise, out of sight, compared to this year.

If they get it right, and it won't be easy, then  all of us who have been starved of the ultimate success for 25 long years, might see us reach the pinnacle that we so desperately desire.

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