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Re: Pre Game Prognostications: AFL 2020 Rd 18: Carlton vs Brisbane - PaulP - 09-17-2020
(09-17-2020, 06:14 AM)Pratty link Wrote:I think we've come a long way in a short period of time since Bolton to be honest.
I think equally the young blokes are that 18 months older. Makes a difference. I think also there is a better system in place now compared to under Bolton. Plus he threw Dow and a small Fisher into the midfield and I reckon it was just too early for them.
Last game? I'd rather we try something for the preseason and 2021 than not. You might uncover something.
I'll not going to get into another Bolton argument, but any development in the young blokes would be negligible since Bolton left. Yes, the passing of time makes them older, but how much real football development have they experienced since mid 2019 ? Teague played them in the 2nd half of last season because he had to. The minute trade time rolled around, he brought in grandpa Eddie, 100 gamer Martin and Pittonet, and pretty much banished the kids to stuff all scratch matches, and an occasional appearance in the seniors, like a human drip feed. Teague's priority was not development, you can be quite certain of that. That will have to change, but I don't think he will do it until he really has to.
Re: Pre Game Prognostications: AFL 2020 Rd 18: Carlton vs Brisbane - laj - 09-17-2020
(09-17-2020, 06:14 AM)Pratty link Wrote:I think we've come a long way in a short period of time since Bolton to be honest.
I think equally the young blokes are that 18 months older. Makes a difference. I think also there is a better system in place now compared to under Bolton. Plus he threw Dow and a small Fisher into the midfield and I reckon it was just too early for them.
Last game? I'd rather we try something for the preseason and 2021 than not. You might uncover something.
Bolton threw some of the young players to the wolves when they weren't ready and it hurt their confidence. They should've been in lesser roles as they developed. Reckon that shot Dow's confidence and did nothing for him. Hopefully haven't killed a good youngster. Great in his first year and a qtr but then fell right away. That's why SOS got some temporary big bodies for that purpose that, as he said, weren't going to be here for more than a couple of years. Similar happened to Weitering playing him in the wrong roles. Was doubted by many for a while but thankfully come good.
Re: Pre Game Prognostications: AFL 2020 Rd 18: Carlton vs Brisbane - Gointocarlton - 09-17-2020
(09-17-2020, 04:53 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:The only problem MilHanna is that in the last two weeks, we haven't turned up to play either....absolutely belted in both opening quarters. If Brisbane don't turn up either then it'll be the worst quarter of footy of all time.Yep, our blokes are already checked out drinking pinacoladas celebrating Simmos career. Crippa and Walshy suggesting a big effort for Simmo is utter lip service.
Re: Pre Game Prognostications: AFL 2020 Rd 18: Carlton vs Brisbane - crashlander - 09-17-2020
(09-17-2020, 08:58 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Yep, our blokes are already checked out drinking pinacoladas celebrating Simmos career. Crippa and Walshy suggesting a big effort for Simmo is utter lip service.Our great fear. We've disappointed so many in recent times, I was really hoping we could pull the finger out. So much for hope.
Re: Pre Game Prognostications: AFL 2020 Rd 18: Carlton vs Brisbane - Gointocarlton - 09-17-2020
(09-17-2020, 09:13 AM)crashlander link Wrote:Our great fear. We've disappointed so many in recent times, I was really hoping we could pull the finger out. So much for hope.It has to change one day Crash.
Re: Pre Game Prognostications: AFL 2020 Rd 18: Carlton vs Brisbane - cookie2 - 09-17-2020
(09-17-2020, 08:58 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Yep, our blokes are already checked out drinking pinacoladas celebrating Simmos career. Crippa and Walshy suggesting a big effort for Simmo is utter lip service.
Sounds very ominous.
Re: Pre Game Prognostications: AFL 2020 Rd 18: Carlton vs Brisbane - Milhanna13 - 09-17-2020
(09-17-2020, 04:53 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:The only problem MilHanna is that in the last two weeks, we haven't turned up to play either....absolutely belted in both opening quarters. If Brisbane don't turn up either then it'll be the worst quarter of footy of all time.
Ha!! Could be on to something! Nil-all at q time??
Re: Pre Game Prognostications: AFL 2020 Rd 18: Carlton vs Brisbane - capcom - 09-17-2020
(09-17-2020, 08:58 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Yep, our blokes are already checked out drinking pinacoladas celebrating Simmos career. Crippa and Walshy suggesting a big effort for Simmo is utter lip service.
Time and a place for everything ... sigh ... this ain't it.
Re: Pre Game Prognostications: AFL 2020 Rd 18: Carlton vs Brisbane - shawny - 09-17-2020
Rumour on socials is Murphy won’t play.
Probably done his shoulder chairing Gibbs off. ?
Re: Pre Game Prognostications: AFL 2020 Rd 18: Carlton vs Brisbane - Pratty - 09-18-2020
(09-17-2020, 06:42 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I'll not going to get into another Bolton argument, but any development in the young blokes would be negligible since Bolton left. Yes, the passing of time makes them older, but how much real football development have they experienced since mid 2019 ? Teague played them in the 2nd half of last season because he had to. The minute trade time rolled around, he brought in grandpa Eddie, 100 gamer Martin and Pittonet, and pretty much banished the kids to stuff all scratch matches, and an occasional appearance in the seniors, like a human drip feed. Teague's priority was not development, you can be quite certain of that. That will have to change, but I don't think he will do it until he really has to.
It's not about Bolton, anymore. I too think the young guys' confidence is shot from the early days. Times have changed. 18 months older is a big difference in maturity.
If we're not going to play these younger guys in bigger roles, then why do we still have them on our list and why would we keep them past tomorrow's final game?
I think the next step for Teague now is to balance the winning with exposing some younger guys into bigger roles with more responsibility. I don't say that for the sake of it. We're not winning games of footy so think that's our cue to change it up a bit. I'm disappointed Teague hasn't. He's stayed loyal to the structure and senior players. That's ok to a degree. His next challenge is to get more our of the fringe types.