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Re: Pre game Discussion Round 15 Carlton vs GWS at Metricon. - Thryleon - 08-31-2020
We are a battling team. As such we battle away, when our application waivers, we are powerless because we have spent all our chips battling. Its why we are in every game, and then fade away with a short period.
That wont continue forever, but most of our players are inexperienced, and not battle hardened which is why this continues.
Re: Pre game Discussion Round 15 Carlton vs GWS at Metricon. - Gointocarlton - 08-31-2020
(08-31-2020, 06:34 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Agree..stopping run ons isnt one of our strong points and a quarter of fancy GWS footy with their talent is probably a winning one.EB we dont look very good when we slow it down, that one of the problems. When we try and possess it, switch it or go for the angle kick, we regularly hit an oppo player or put our intended target under immense pressure and the turnover comes. And its not just the young kids fluffing it. We seem to be very good or at least better at the faster transition and ball movement with only the second last or last kick I50 being the problem.
A lot of that is leadership and its up to Cripps, Docherty and Simpson etc to direct traffic as well as the coach to make moves to slow the game down and adjust to swings in momentum.
Re: Pre game Discussion Round 15 Carlton vs GWS at Metricon. - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-31-2020
(08-31-2020, 06:50 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:EB we dont look very good when we slow it down, that one of the problems. When we try and possess it, switch it or go for the angle kick, we regularly hit an oppo player or put our intended target under immense pressure and the turnover comes. And its not just the young kids fluffing it. We seem to be very good or at least better at the faster transition and ball movement with only the second last or last kick I50 being the problem.GTC, We need another gear to change momentum, the good teams can hang onto the ball and make those passes and take the heat out of the game. You often see Houli, Martin etc make the big kick for Richmond that clears the danger zone and sets up the switch and the commentators will say what a great kick to break the trend of play. They will kick it back across goal several times if they have to and they make those passes to setup and be safe in bringing the ball out.
I agree we dont do it well but we are going to have to and find players who can if we are going to get better...
Re: Pre game Discussion Round 15 Carlton vs GWS at Metricon. - Gointocarlton - 08-31-2020
(08-31-2020, 07:15 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:GTC, We need another gear to change momentum, the good teams can hang onto the ball and make those passes and take the heat out of the game. You often see Houli, Martin etc make the big kick for Richmond that clears the danger zone and sets up the switch and the commentators will say what a great kick to break the trend of play. They will kick it back across goal several times if they have to and they make those passes to setup and be safe in bringing the ball out.No argument from me.
I agree we dont do it well but we are going to have to and find players who can if we are going to get better...
Re: Pre game Discussion Round 15 Carlton vs GWS at Metricon. - cookie2 - 08-31-2020
(08-31-2020, 07:15 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:GTC, We need another gear to change momentum, the good teams can hang onto the ball and make those passes and take the heat out of the game. You often see Houli, Martin etc make the big kick for Richmond that clears the danger zone and sets up the switch and the commentators will say what a great kick to break the trend of play. They will kick it back across goal several times if they have to and they make those passes to setup and be safe in bringing the ball out.EB, I agree 100% and I think Williams is such a player from what I have seen of him.
I agree we dont do it well but we are going to have to and find players who can if we are going to get better...
Re: Pre game Discussion Round 15 Carlton vs GWS at Metricon. - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-31-2020
(08-31-2020, 07:50 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:EB, I agree 100% and I think Williams is such a player from what I have seen of him.Agree Cookie, He is quick but also a good user of the ball and importantly kicks well on the run.
I guess the price is the issue and where our cut off point is, Nth just over pay for everything and jack the starting price up.
Re: Pre game Discussion Round 15 Carlton vs GWS at Metricon. - LP - 08-31-2020
(08-31-2020, 03:02 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:DeBoer has had the wood on him before and had a good game on Fyfe, I'd be prepared to play Cripps at FF from the goal square and clear out the forward line apart from Eddie.I think Cripps is no certainty from the square either!
DeBoer needs some Hodge style attention, we've got Cripps, Setterfield and even if he plays McGovern as a big bodied mid. Cripps just needs to lead him to the football and head left or right before one of our others come front on. If Cripps runs past the footy and DeBoer follows it's bad luck for him!
Re: Pre game Discussion Round 15 Carlton vs GWS at Metricon. - Professer E - 08-31-2020
The kid EB pointed out (Riccardi) when the club was entertaining Moore will need watching this week.
Re: Pre game Discussion Round 15 Carlton vs GWS at Metricon. - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-31-2020
(08-31-2020, 09:44 PM)Professer E link Wrote:The kid EB pointed out (Riccardi) when the club was entertaining Moore will need watching this week.Been good the past couple of weeks and worked well with Cameron, very hard working player who gives you effort.
Riccardi suffered from VFL stigma unlike Moore who had to be good because he came from Richmond.
Riccardi took 9 marks vs Freo and was the rising star weekly winner too.
We booted Kerr but had no backup forwards, given Harry, Charlie and money guv can't stay on the park, were then forced to look at rejects like Moore after the draft.
Re: Pre game Discussion Round 15 Carlton vs GWS at Metricon. - Gointocarlton - 08-31-2020
(08-31-2020, 10:48 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Been good the past couple of weeks and worked well with Cameron, very hard working player who gives you effort.Personally I would have kept Kerr but I suppose Liddle and co didnt like the fact he was the grandson of a long time benefactor who's family has a rich Carlton history..
Riccardi suffered from VFL stigma unlike Moore who had to be good because he came from Richmond.
Riccardi took 9 marks vs Freo and was the rising star weekly winner too.
We booted Kerr but had no backup forwards, given Harry, Charlie and money guv can't stay on the park, were then forced to look at rejects like Moore after the draft.