+- Carlton Supporters Club (http://new.carltonsc.com)
+-- Forum: Princes Park (http://new.carltonsc.com/forum-4.html)
+--- Forum: Robert Heatley Stand (http://new.carltonsc.com/forum-14.html)
+--- Thread: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong (/thread-4739.html)
Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong - Blue Moon - 06-17-2020
Jake Niall in the age has written a report about the lack of tackling by Carlton in the first quarters. Intensity is the key. Geelong has good but front running mid-field, their back line is solid but can be taken apart if the ball enters quickly into their opponents forward line, and their forwards are a bunch of names put together like a quilt and only functions if the mid-field is on top. This is why they keep getting cleaned up in the finals by good teams. We need to make an absolute raging contest from the first bounce, if we do that we might find Geelong out.
Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong - LP - 06-17-2020
(06-17-2020, 01:40 AM)Blue Moon date Wrote:Jake Niall in the age has written a report about the lack of tackling by Carlton in the first quarters. Intensity is the key. Geelong has good but front running mid-field, their back line is solid but can be taken apart if the ball enters quickly into their opponents forward line, and their forwards are a bunch of names put together like a quilt and only functions if the mid-field is on top. This is why they keep getting cleaned up in the finals by good teams. We need to make an absolute raging contest from the first bounce, if we do that we might find Geelong out.Go back and watch the replay yourself, you'll find Carlton players getting first to the ball but not being clean on the pickup and getting pegged by the Dees. Then the Dees are very clean, and break away leaving nobody to tackle, it distorted the stats and blaming tackling hides the real problem.
Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong - PaulP - 06-17-2020
(06-17-2020, 01:50 AM)LP link Wrote:Go back and watch the replay yourself, you'll find Carlton players getting first to the ball but not being clean on the pickup and getting pegged by the Dees. Then the Dees are very clean, and break away leaving nobody to tackle, it distorted the stats and blaming tackling hides the real problem.
What you're saying is true IMO - all facets of the game are interdependent, and the stats can only be interpreted correctly in relation to the actual game, and in relation to understanding footy in some vaguely holistic way.
Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong - PaulP - 06-17-2020
(06-13-2020, 10:07 AM)townsendcalling link Wrote:In Williamson Silvagni Philps
Out Lang Newman Newnes
I'd be very curious to know how we can properly assess the form of those not playing seniors without a proper VFL team. These scratch matches don't really fill me with much hope to be honest.
Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong - flyboy77 - 06-17-2020
Going to (potentially) very wet Saturday.
Three talls + SOJ up forward top heavy?
Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong - cookie2 - 06-17-2020
(06-17-2020, 02:23 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Going to (potentially) very wet Saturday.
Three talls + SOJ up forward top heavy?
SOJ to the midfield.
Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong - Gointocarlton - 06-17-2020
(06-17-2020, 02:36 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:SOJ to the midfield.SOJ, like his father, relishes wet weather footy.
Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong - Baggers - 06-17-2020
(06-17-2020, 01:40 AM)Blue Moon link Wrote:Jake Niall in the age has written a report about the lack of tackling by Carlton in the first quarters. Intensity is the key. Geelong has good but front running mid-field, their back line is solid but can be taken apart if the ball enters quickly into their opponents forward line, and their forwards are a bunch of names put together like a quilt and only functions if the mid-field is on top. This is why they keep getting cleaned up in the finals by good teams. We need to make an absolute raging contest from the first bounce, if we do that we might find Geelong out.
Intensity - exactamundo. And that's above the shoulders, that's attitude. Too often we start games trying to finesse... now where does that instruction (and lack of intent) come from?
Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong - bmaurizio - 06-17-2020
Playing against the Cats at their irregular Kardina Park is really unfair, we'll be crunched unfortunately, a top 4 side with home ground advantage is the cruel reality.
Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong - Gointocarlton - 06-17-2020
(06-17-2020, 04:50 AM)bmaurizio link Wrote:Playing against the Cats at their irregular Kardina Park is really unfair, we'll be crunched unfortunately, a top 4 side with home ground advantage is the cruel reality.I'm surprised its $1.14 v $5.50 with the line at 27.5. 11 odd goal flogging last year IIRC, they will be doing well to get within that I reckon.