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Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn - kruddler - 07-14-2018

(07-14-2018, 09:34 AM)blue4life link Wrote:Pickett was very poor for the second week running and simply doesn't deserve a senior game, Graham will give us more.
If we need to make four changes so be it, Byrne should be a walk up start provided he gets through the VFL unscathed and Weitering might be good to play.
Mullet at a pinch but non contributors need to know that a certain level is required and that it's not negotiable.

Graham will give us more, but he won't be around next year, when Pickett probably will. So persist with Pickett...who BTW missed over half the season being injured, so forgive him if he is still trying to work himself into AFL level. FYI, he is a 21yo, former pick 4 who has only played 12 games due to injury. Give him a go.

Its about the future, not this week.


Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn - blue4life - 07-14-2018

(07-14-2018, 10:30 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Graham will give us more, but he won't be around next year, when Pickett probably will. So persist with Pickett...who BTW missed over half the season being injured, so forgive him if he is still trying to work himself into AFL level. FYI, he is a 21yo, former pick 4 who has only played 12 games due to injury. Give him a go.

Its about the future, not this week.

I'm happy to give him a go, in the VFL until he finds some form.
He and Polson were embarrassing last night, you can't reward performances like those.


Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn - Professer E - 07-14-2018

I reckon we are a flukers chance and can beat the whorks,  their midfield is shallow and they are a shell of the side they are.  We lack a match for Roughy but their ladder position flatters them greatly.

Big game by the Curnows next week and we can push this mob.


Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn - PaulP - 07-14-2018

(07-14-2018, 10:30 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Graham will give us more, but he won't be around next year, when Pickett probably will. So persist with Pickett...who BTW missed over half the season being injured, so forgive him if he is still trying to work himself into AFL level. FYI, he is a 21yo, former pick 4 who has only played 12 games due to injury. Give him a go.

Its about the future, not this week.

Is it possible, just possible, that on those occasions when people have questioned selections that result in "poor team balance", that maybe those selections were also done with an eye to the future, rather than the game at hand ?

Just askin'. 


Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn - blue4life - 07-14-2018

(07-14-2018, 10:41 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Is it possible, just possible, that on those occasions when people have questioned selections that result in "poor team balance", that maybe those selections were also done with an eye to the future, rather than the game at hand ?

Just askin'.

I don't know what's in the mind of the match committee and no one else on here does either but it's fun to speculate.
It's only my opinion, and my opinion is that performances of the standard dished up by Pickett and Polson over the last fortnight can never be accepted, there are others going very close to the line as well but those two have been the most glaring.
I'm no fan of Nick Graham as a footballer but he always gives his best and he's fit and available, I'd even give Mullet another go.
We have to draw the line somewhere.


Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn - PaulP - 07-14-2018

(07-14-2018, 10:37 AM)Professer E link Wrote:I reckon we are a flukers chance and can beat the whorks,  their midfield is shallow and they are a shell of the side they are.  We lack a match for Roughy but their ladder position flatters them greatly.

Big game by the Curnows next week and we can push this mob.

No chance. Their midfield might be shallow, and they may be a shell of their former selves, and their ladder position may flatter them, but we're not capable of beating them.


Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn - cookie2 - 07-14-2018

After Friday it would be a miracle if we won another game this year imo. I am definitely not tipping us again!


Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-14-2018

(07-14-2018, 12:47 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:After Friday it would be a miracle if we won another game this year imo. I am definitely not tipping us again!

Hope you didnt follow my lead Cookie and tip the Saints.? :-[


Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn - cookie2 - 07-14-2018

(07-14-2018, 12:48 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Hope you didnt follow my lead Cookie and tip the Saints.? :-[

I got sucked in and tipped us - as I did v. the Lions! Don't say it - I'm a slow learner.  :Smile


Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn - kruddler - 07-14-2018

(07-14-2018, 10:41 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Is it possible, just possible, that on those occasions when people have questioned selections that result in "poor team balance", that maybe those selections were also done with an eye to the future, rather than the game at hand ?

Just askin'.

I wouldn't have thought so.

Unless in the future we plan to play 4 key defenders every week.
Or maybe only 1 forward.

What i am talking about is basically a like for like type. Doesn't effect team balance but gets games into the kids instead of blokes who are not the future.

So McKay playing instead of Casboult.
So Dow/OBrien instead of Graham/Kerridge
So Pickett instead of Lamb
etc