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Re: Next Captain - cookie2 - 04-23-2018
Even if Cripps gets it the Doc would likely still play a big leadership role and would likely be the general of our defence.
Re: Next Captain - PaulP - 04-23-2018
(04-23-2018, 10:43 AM)kruddler link Wrote:A couple pros and cons if you will.
Docherty
Pros
- Has the game in front of him
- Has a level head
- Young and consistent
Cons
- Coming off an injury, may never be the same player again
- Needs to focus on his body first and foremost, doing a knee is a 24 month recovery (12 months physical, 12 months mental)
- Cannot grab the game by the scruff of the neck
- Smaller in stature
Cripps
Pros
- Can influence the game being in the thick of the contest
- Can push forward if/when required to assert his dominance on the game
- Young and consistent
- Freakish size and knows how to use it
- Emotional, can be uplifting
Cons
- Emotional, can be distracting
- Might miss out on the bigger picture being in the clinches
I think i've covered everything off there.
Based on that, i reckon i've convinced myself that Cripps should be it.
Really comes down to bad timing for Doc, and Cripps' ability to turn/influence a game.
Without knowing the internal dynamics of the players, Bolton's ideas on captaincy etc. I think you're being rather presumptuous. And that list looks exactly like what it is - a list generated by a fan and spectator, not a club insider.
Re: Next Captain - kruddler - 04-23-2018
(04-23-2018, 10:55 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Without knowing the internal dynamics of the players, Bolton's ideas on captaincy etc. I think you're being rather presumptuous. And that list looks exactly like what it is - a list generated by a fan and spectator, not a club insider.
Did i give you the impression that i was anything but?
What a weird comment.
Re: Next Captain - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-23-2018
(04-23-2018, 10:43 AM)kruddler link Wrote:A couple pros and cons if you will.
Docherty
Pros
- Has the game in front of him
- Has a level head
- Young and consistent
Cons
- Coming off an injury, may never be the same player again
- Needs to focus on his body first and foremost, doing a knee is a 24 month recovery (12 months physical, 12 months mental)
- Cannot grab the game by the scruff of the neck
- Smaller in stature
Cripps
Pros
- Can influence the game being in the thick of the contest
- Can push forward if/when required to assert his dominance on the game
- Young and consistent
- Freakish size and knows how to use it
- Emotional, can be uplifting
Cons
- Emotional, can be distracting
- Might miss out on the bigger picture being in the clinches
I think i've covered everything off there.
Based on that, i reckon i've convinced myself that Cripps should be it.
Really comes down to bad timing for Doc, and Cripps' ability to turn/influence a game.
Cripps is physical and can look after his smaller team mates and I know its an old fashioned idea but I prefer a bigger player as captain who can
show aggression and get his teammates to follow him into battle. Docherty is a good intelligent footballer but he is a classy choirboy, we need a different captain with so many young kids.
We need a warrior not a classical band leader....
Re: Next Captain - Gointocarlton - 04-23-2018
Enjoy the Crippa show
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2018-04-23/captain-cripps-delivers
Re: Next Captain - PaulP - 04-23-2018
(04-23-2018, 11:04 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Did i give you the impression that i was anything but?
What a weird comment.
The point I was making is that what we see on the outside may bear little representation to what the club thinks. It's possible the playing group think Cripps is a tool. It's possible that Doc hobnobbing with the coaches, MC etc. for a year enhances rather than diminishes his captaincy prospects etc.
Re: Next Captain - Thryleon - 04-23-2018
You missed a massive con for cripps. He can be exposed by a quick opponent and can be caught not being accountable.
He won't be like that his whole career but Docherty is anything but unaccountable.
Re: Next Captain - sandsmere - 04-23-2018
Cripps and Docherty.
Either one would do a good job.
Re: Next Captain - JonHenry - 04-23-2018
(04-23-2018, 01:49 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:You missed a massive con for cripps. He can be exposed by a quick opponent and can be caught not being accountable.
He won't be like that his whole career but Docherty is anything but unaccountable.
Not being accountable?
There is nothing more accountable than winning contested footy all day and carrying your teams hopes on your back at the ripe old age of 23.
We can all role out the old, he didn't chase at the 12 minute mark story....
The poor bloke is probably exhausted after his fourth effort in 2 minutes and we want to judge him on his accountability?
I can't wait for Murphy to become accountable like that
The kid busts his gut week in week out. His body gets smashed and he smashes the opposition in order to give our other mids an easier ride.
It reminds me of posters on here questioning Judds accountability. Seriously fucking laughable
Re: Next Captain - LP - 04-23-2018
(04-23-2018, 09:36 PM)JonHenry link Wrote:Not being accountable?
There is nothing more accountable than winning contested footy all day and carrying your teams hopes on your back at the ripe old age of 23.
We can all role out the old, he didn't chase at the 12 minute mark story....
The poor bloke is probably exhausted after his fourth effort in 2 minutes and we want to judge him on his accountability?
I can't wait for Murphy to become accountable like that
The kid busts his gut week in week out. His body gets smashed and he smashes the opposition in order to give our other mids an easier ride.
It reminds me of posters on here questioning Judds accountability. Seriously screwing laughable
It's not NRL, there is far more to being accountable in AFL than just jogging to the next contest no matter how many of those contests you win!
Cripps will get better, which is the whole point or both your own and Thry's posts.