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Re: Rd 6: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs. Essendon - Gointocarlton - 04-25-2016
(04-25-2016, 06:13 AM)blue4life link Wrote:Defenders cop a rough deal, they're bound to lose a few one on one contests but when they do it's costly, a forward gets beaten or doesn't even make it to the contest and no one seems bothered so much.Do not disagree with any of that except that last sentence, in particular the far outweighs bit. I think if we could slot a more natural defender in his spot (say Byrne), 2E could be a weapon further up the ground for us. Thats a win-win AFAIC.
Touhy's foot skills are as good as anyone at Carlton, he's quick, strong and has a natural attacking instinct.
His good far outweighs the bad in my opinion.
Re: Rd 6: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs. Essendon - cookie2 - 04-25-2016
(04-25-2016, 06:44 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Do not disagree with any of that except that last sentence, in particular the far outweighs bit. I think if we could slot a more natural defender in his spot (say Byrne), 2E could be a weapon further up the ground for us. Thats a win-win AFAIC.
Far too much heart in the mouth stuff for my taste with Tuohy in defence atm. (Well I don't like the taste of it!).
Re: Rd 6: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs. Essendon - LP - 04-25-2016
(04-25-2016, 06:49 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Far too much heart in the mouth stuff for my taste with Tuohy in defence atm. (Well I don't like the taste of it!).
Most of our defence has been fine this season. The problems are caused by a lack of forward presence and forward tackling pressure. Opposition clubs are transitioning far too easily against us and it leaves our defenders out of position. Lamb is an improvement, and Wright is rolled gold when he's deep in the F50, but we need quite a few more getting to the fall of the ball inside F50 especially if the big blokes aren't going to clunk a dozen marks each per game.
Re: Rd 6: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs. Essendon - RiverRat - 04-25-2016
(04-24-2016, 11:42 PM)crashlander link Wrote:We have a few guys still not getting much of the ball, no matter how improved our work rate all over the ground has been. Therefore I am pretty certain that Armfield will get a game. His raw pace will be very useful.
Jamison probably won't get a game our defence stood up very well against a team with premiership aspirations.
Armfield for Buckley would probably be a positive.
If fit, Jamison should come under consideration as an opponent for Daniher - despite less than brilliant form, Jamo is still our best tall defender against a leading forward because the others (apart from Byrne) lack closing speed and/or reach. Also, Weitering has been a more attacking player in the games that Jamo has played.
Re: Rd 6: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs. Essendon - Professer E - 04-25-2016
Daniher is still lightly framed and relies up jumping at the ball. Doesn't like body pressure.
Re: Rd 6: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs. Essendon - pinot - 04-25-2016
Why isn't Buckley developing?
I though he would be much better than he is currently playing. Is he trying too hard?
Re: Rd 6: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs. Essendon - Thryleon - 04-25-2016
(04-25-2016, 08:38 AM)RiverRat link Wrote:Armfield for Buckley would probably be a positive.
If fit, Jamison should come under consideration as an opponent for Daniher - despite less than brilliant form, Jamo is still our best tall defender against a leading forward because the others (apart from Byrne) lack closing speed and/or reach. Also, Weitering has been a more attacking player in the games that Jamo has played.
Plowman and weitering have made Jamo redundant.
Both are better at closing, both can actually spoil and both have a level of ability above what he does.
Jamo has been a good servant but he is now our backup defender and will only play if the others don't.
Re: Rd 6: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs. Essendon - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-25-2016
(04-25-2016, 04:06 AM)blue4life link Wrote:Zach is as safe as houses, among the first half dozen picked.
I'm with Cookie on Zac...been ordinary this season and needs to improve, plenty of errors and his decision making seems suspect under pressure.
However there isnt much apart from Dick in the NB's to take his spot as a specialist half back ..
re: Buckley...I'd go with him again this week, does have a crack and we need leg speed...making silly errors for sure but the effort is always there and
I think we need to persist with him ahead of players like Armfield who are not the future...
If you want to drop Buckley then replace him with Boekhorst if fit, DVR, Smith etc..I like Army but he is backup these days only IMO
Re: Rd 6: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs. Essendon - DJC - 04-25-2016
(04-25-2016, 09:53 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Plowman and weitering have made Jamo redundant.
Both are better at closing, both can actually spoil and both have a level of ability above what he does.
Jamo has been a good servant but he is now our backup defender and will only play if the others don't.
I suspect that Jamison will only play if he gets back in form. At his best, he's well ahead of Rowe, Weitering and Plowman when it comes to shutting down a key forward. However, I'm not convinced that he will be able to get back. I hope I'm proved wrong.
Re: Rd 6: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs. Essendon - Thryleon - 04-25-2016
(04-25-2016, 10:00 AM)DJC link Wrote:I suspect that Jamison will only play if he gets back in form. At his best, he's well ahead of Rowe, Weitering and Plowman when it comes to shutting down a key forward. However, I'm not convinced that he will be able to get back. I hope I'm proved wrong.
Jamisons shoulders are that cooked that he can't actually stop his opponent.