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Re: Rd 4: Pre Game Pressure: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs - RiverRat - 04-10-2016

(04-10-2016, 12:08 AM)crashlander link Wrote:However, if changes are to be made, then those who could be replaced include:
[1] Jamison
[2] Rowe
[3] Whiley - just played his best game for us (low bar, I know) - he looks better trying to win the ball than tag an opponent
[4] Buckley - play him in defence where he can run the lines
[5] Phillips
[6] Kreuzer - has never been and will never be a forward - IF we want to be more competitive, this guy has to spend more time in the ruck
[7] Casboult



Re: Rd 4: Pre Game Pressure: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs - Juddkreuzer - 04-10-2016

From RR

Quote:[6] Kreuzer - has never been and will never be a forward - IF we want to be more competitive, this guy has to spend more time in the ruck

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Re: Rd 4: Pre Game Pressure: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs - PassIt2Carrots - 04-10-2016

Guys, hate to tell you but he's been putrid in the ruck as well.


Re: Rd 4: Pre Game Pressure: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs - townsendcalling - 04-10-2016

Liam Jones against his old club??  Has been having a crack in the twos and might just be the motivation he needs.


Re: Rd 4: Pre Game Pressure: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs - LP - 04-10-2016

(04-10-2016, 01:46 PM)RiverRat link Wrote:However, if changes are to be made, then those who could be replaced include:
[1] Jamison
[2] Rowe
[3] Whiley - just played his best game for us (low bar, I know) - he looks better trying to win the ball than tag an opponent
[4] Buckley - play him in defence where he can run the lines
[5] Phillips
[6] Kreuzer - has never been and will never be a forward - IF we want to be more competitive, this guy has to spend more time in the ruck
[7] Casboult

Sorry RR, just can't see the love for Whiley. At unders we pump it into kids heads;

Don't stand still
Don't stand still
Don't stand still

But Whiley's default mode of getting the ball is decelerate or stand still and letting someone handball to him. At Unders he would not get many kicks because we tell kids;

Don't handball to someone standing still
Don't handball to someone standing still
Don't handball to someone standing still

Whiley needs to get the old toothpicks under the eyelids and watch 80hrs of Ablett Jnr, Jab Watson or Diesel Williams. Particularly Watson and Williams because it shows just what you can do without extreme pace or extreme acceleration if you are prepared to keep moving and accelerate through the ball.

Dynamic and lateral movement is a must against the Doggies.

This post might sound unfair to Whiley, but I can only judge him by those around him and he looks static relative to others.


Re: Rd 4: Pre Game Pressure: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-10-2016

(04-10-2016, 08:32 PM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:Guys, hate to tell you but he's been putrid in the ruck as well.

x2....

Should be dropped....but wont be due to his draft pick status....


Re: Rd 4: Pre Game Pressure: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs - laj - 04-11-2016

(04-10-2016, 10:00 PM)LP link Wrote:Sorry RR, just can't see the love for Whiley. At unders we pump it into kids heads;

Don't stand still
Don't stand still
Don't stand still

But Whiley's default mode of getting the ball is decelerate or stand still and letting someone handball to him. At Unders he would not get many kicks because we tell kids;

Don't handball to someone standing still
Don't handball to someone standing still
Don't handball to someone standing still

Whiley needs to get the old toothpicks under the eyelids and watch 80hrs of Ablett Jnr, Jab Watson or Diesel Williams. Particularly Watson and Williams because it shows just what you can do without extreme pace or extreme acceleration if you are prepared to keep moving and accelerate through the ball.

Dynamic and lateral movement is a must against the Doggies.

This post might sound unfair to Whiley, but I can only judge him by those around him and he looks static relative to others.

Only handball to someone standing still if it's the old 1-2, the player standing still immediately dishes of to a player running past. Same with handballing to blokes with their back to goal. Unless they dish it straight off the have to turn around before they can even start to do something with it. We just use so many wrong options. Handball to blokes running hard in the direction of goals. That way we move the ball foward quickly.


Re: Rd 4: Pre Game Pressure: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs - Professer E - 04-11-2016

U9's stuff IAJ...


Re: Rd 4: Pre Game Pressure: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs - laj - 04-11-2016

(04-11-2016, 02:40 AM)Professer E link Wrote:U9's stuff IAJ...

Seems though we play in the U7's


Re: Rd 4: Pre Game Pressure: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs - LP - 04-11-2016

(04-11-2016, 02:33 AM)laj link Wrote:Only handball to someone standing still if it's the old 1-2, the player standing still immediately dishes of to a player running past. Same with handballing to blokes with their back to goal. Unless they dish it straight off the have to turn around before they can even start to do something with it. We just use so many wrong options. Handball to blokes running hard in the direction of goals. That way we move the ball foward quickly.

Doesn't work in AFL and won't work in most modern well coached Unders comps either. In the AFL teams know opponents way too well, they are geared into thinking this player doesn't move so zone off him and we will get the ball back. A little bit of movement, any movement for that matter, makes it much harder to setup a structure to cause a turnover.

As soon as a player props and sets anchor like the QE2 it's turnover time if coaches are on the ball!