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Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - DJC - 05-10-2015
(05-10-2015, 08:11 AM)laj link Wrote:This club doesn't lack ability. They lack a decent coaching structure from a bloke who is way past it as well as lacking anything close to any "want".
Very true
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - BluePhantom - 05-10-2015
(05-10-2015, 08:34 AM)spf link Wrote:What do you mean hand back the keys? Are advocating leaving the AFL!?!?
I meant Carlton is more Melbournesque than I think many people wanted to admit and it's been that way for awhile now. Like a drug addict or alcoholic you sometimes have to admit where you're at before you can take a step forward and that's where this club is at right now. The culture is rotten and we have to clean it up from the board level down. Sacking Malthouse and will simply shuffle the chairs about - ask yourself this aside from making people feel momentarily better, what would it achieve? I doubt it's the coach.
Rattan was the only one in the last 10-12 years that seemed to get any spirit going in the group but let's not kid ourselves there were problems then. Underlying problems that whilst kept at bay for year or two ultimately led to his demise.
We have no patience and our list and culture I think are poor. We have failed repeatedly at the draft and with inward looking management we are not prepared to back a strategy and really build a club. If you were building a club from scratch today what would you do? How would you got about it? That's really where Carlton is at.
I should've put a
at the end.You right though, we need a big BIG plan to get back to at least on par with Richmond
let alone the upper echelon of the ladder :
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - PassIt2Carrots - 05-10-2015
And don't get me started on Nick Graham wearing the green vest FFS what a joke that is.
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - laj - 05-10-2015
(05-10-2015, 08:33 AM)blue4life link Wrote:There's ability in every side, we had a sprinkling of top players when we were winning wooden spoons.
Today's team was one of the weakest Carlton sides I can remember, if you can't see that well..........
Proving you don't know much
Without taking into account current form but on this list is:
Walker
Menzel
Murphy
Gibbs
Judd
Simpson
Kreuzer
Cripps
Yarran
Docherty
Jaksch
Henderson
Bell
Everitt
Curnow
Byrne
Thomas
Jamison
Casboult
Touhy
Not a Hawthorn list but certainly something a half decent coach can easily work with. Certainly not a bottom of the ladder list. If you say that lacks ability then I'll just point and laugh. We are so badly coached right now that we have the life sucked right out of us. Game plan and structure is awful.
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - blue4life - 05-10-2015
(05-10-2015, 08:34 AM)spf link Wrote:I meant Carlton is more Melbournesque than I think many people wanted to admit and it's been that way for awhile now. Like a drug addict or alcoholic you sometimes have to admit where you're at before you can take a step forward and that's where this club is at right now. The culture is rotten and we have to clean it up from the board level down. Sacking Malthouse and will simply shuffle the chairs about - ask yourself this aside from making people feel momentarily better, what would it achieve? I doubt it's the coach.
Parkin appointed Brittain before he left, Elliott hired Pagan as the saviour, Ratten was employed to keep the supporters and members happy and now Malthouse has been employed on reputation.
At no time in the past decade or more have we actually approached selecting a coach with an open mind and taken a methodical approach, every one of them has been appointed to fit the political climate at the club at the time.
Our administration in general has been woeful and where we are now is the product of that.
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - laj - 05-10-2015
(05-10-2015, 08:38 AM)BluePhantom link Wrote:I should've put a
You right though, we need a big BIG plan to get back to at least on par with Richmond
Richmond's actually working to get on a par with us...lol!!!
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - blue4life - 05-10-2015
(05-10-2015, 08:40 AM)laj link Wrote:Proving you don't know much
Whatever gets you through the night laj.
We've won two elimination finals in 14 years, against Essendon and Richmond, that's where we are as a club.
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - LanceRomance - 05-10-2015
Pretty appalling game
Looked like half the club didn't want to be out there.
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - Brettie - 05-10-2015
The players have spoken.....and they didn't need to use words.
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - BluePhantom - 05-10-2015
(05-10-2015, 08:49 AM)Brettie link Wrote:The players have spoken.....and they didn't need to use words.
I thought they spoke last week?
Someone isn't listening? :o