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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - DJC - 07-11-2015
There should be a few changes and I suspect Watson's career may be over.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - DJC - 07-11-2015
Johnson batted well but I think that served to demonstrate how poorly the specialist batsmen and "all rounder" played.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - MosquitoFleet - 07-12-2015
if they drop watson and haddin for good, its a great result
haddin dropped the ashes with root....imo
the aussie selectors have to show some spine and and bring some talent in ...ashton agar is taking wickets and marsh with runs
the aussie selectors are hopeless when it comes to england ashes series...voges, haddin, watson is a dads army...
the bowlers have been hopless with the duke ball...again another hopeless ashes preparation.
too many rock stars and tattoos in the australian side now..
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - Amers - 07-12-2015
It appears swing is king when bowling in England, we need a couple of Terry Aldermans in the side.
Our batting is brittle as well, an AB type player who is willing to tough an innings out might be helpful as well.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - PassIt2Carrots - 07-12-2015
Terry Alderman now there was a great swing bowler if I ever saw one. Was far from express after his injury as well but would still open the bowling. The smiling assassin.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - cimm1979 - 07-12-2015
(07-12-2015, 09:14 AM)Amers link Wrote:It appears swing is king when bowling in England, we need a couple of Terry Aldermans in the side.
Our batting is brittle as well, an AB type player who is willing to tough an innings out might be helpful as well.
Just hit the seam will do and bowl good areas and to the plan.
Glen McGrath took a billion wickets and swung it twice in his career.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - spf - 07-12-2015
Time to get Siddle in after the Harris retirement. Siddle probably would not have expected to play a test but you know what you get with him.
If he can deliver from close to the stumps and bowl stump to stump with a little bit of cut he will be a marked improvement from what we've had. Not express but certainly 135kph which Broad was for most of the match. Not being as tall he won't get the bounce but not many did and Mark Wood is shorter than Siddle but hits the pitch hard and in the right areas.
A siddle combination with Lyon and Hazelwood will at least build pressure.
As for Shane Watson it's now a mere formality that his place is now Mitchell Marsh's for good. Australia might do well to think about whether Watson has any further use in the test setup and if not probably swap him out for someone from the Australia A tour. His body language was poor and his pace was only slightly more than David Warners medium pace and I'd rather Mitchell Johnson having a go as batsman right now - we'd lose nothing.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-12-2015
England pitched the ball up more and Broad in particular was more concerned with line and length than trying to bounce or intimidate batsman...our blokes tried to drive good deliveries and paid the price. Bayliss has obviously decided that trying to fight fire with fire wont work and that he will make it hard to score runs and build up pressure by instructing his bowlers to bowl line and length. There were no cute fielding positions but Cook didnt get carried away with attacking either and had some of his field back as cover for well hit shots.
Their long batting lineup also provided problems and the days of the long English tail look over with even bowler Wood able to handle the willow.....
Playing Siddle is a risk IMO..he is very military medium pace these days and while he is a warrior who will toil all day he is also very easy to hit around and I would prefer
the pace of Cummins to replace Starc if he doesnt come up...
Siddle may be the same pace as Broad but the Englishman is about a foot taller and gets the bounce you need at that pace...
M. Marsh in for Watson is a no brainer IMO....
Watching Watto, Rogers and Voges in the outfield also made me thing we need some younger quicker fielders..Watto in particular is like treacle chasing in the outfield...
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - JonHenry - 07-12-2015
(07-12-2015, 10:54 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:England pitched the ball up more and Broad in particular was more concerned with line and length than trying to bounce or intimidate batsman...our blokes tried to drive good deliveries and paid the price. Bayliss has obviously decided that trying to fight fire with fire wont work and that he will make it hard to score runs and build up pressure by instructing his bowlers to bowl line and length. There were no cute fielding positions but Cook didnt get carried away with attacking either and had some of his field back as cover for well hit shots.
Their long batting lineup also provided problems and the days of the long English tail look over with even bowler Wood able to handle the willow.....
Playing Siddle is a risk IMO..he is very military medium pace these days and while he is a warrior who will toil all day he is also very easy to hit around and I would prefer
the pace of Cummins to replace Starc if he doesnt come up...
Siddle may be the same pace as Broad but the Englishman is about a foot taller and gets the bounce you need at that pace...
M. Marsh in for Watson is a no brainer IMO....
Watching Watto, Rogers and Voges in the outfield also made me thing we need some younger quicker fielders..Watto in particular is like treacle chasing in the outfield...
Siddle bowls too much leg side shit for a bloke that bowls 134 and is only 6' tall.
Cummins has not played 4 day cricket for 2 years, thanks to CA but now must get thrust into an Ashes series. Good work Pat Howard - Flog.
Why have we not got a younger bat on tour, what a wasted opportunity. Joe Burns? How has Shaun Marsh never played in England until this tour?
Haddin should go but won't. These selectors love their old blokes because they are tough, good blokes, good leaders. Unfortunately they may not be the best available.
How did we pick a squad with so many 33+ yo players? Acceptable if they are champions, but how many are? Harris and Clarke.
Is Peter Siddle on a retirement fund with CA? FMD
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - LP - 07-13-2015
(07-12-2015, 10:44 PM)JonHenry link Wrote:Siddle bowls too much leg side crap for a bloke that bowls 134 and is only 6' tall.
Cummins has not played 4 day cricket for 2 years, thanks to CA but now must get thrust into an Ashes series. Good work Pat Howard - Flog.
Why have we not got a younger bat on tour, what a wasted opportunity. Joe Burns? How has Shaun Marsh never played in England until this tour?
Haddin should go but won't. These selectors love their old blokes because they are tough, good blokes, good leaders. Unfortunately they may not be the best available.
How did we pick a squad with so many 33+ yo players? Acceptable if they are champions, but how many are? Harris and Clarke.
Is Peter Siddle on a retirement fund with CA? FMD
Siddle is only 30??? :o
And he's the best lock down bowler in Australia.
I think you've listened to too much Thommo, I love the guy but lately his opinions have been a bit erratic. Reports are Thommo spent the evening at a pre-ashes dinner sitting next to Rogers and asked someone at the end of the night who Rogers was!
Shaun Marsh has never played before because he has a crap record on the swinging / turning decks you get in county cricket.
What you need to ask yourself is why the selectors are not smarter, they knew what sort of wickets the UK would dish up yet they picked a squad to play cricket at the WACA! :o
England are playing psychological games based on the fact the Australian batsmen are rattled since the death of Hughes, so they are delivering them up and down pitches that make our blokes uncomfortable. Add to that they have asked us to play nice, knowing blokes like Haddin, Warner and Johnson thrive when they are provoked.
Finally, Australian cricket is doomed until the country wrestles control of cricket back off NSW, FFS it's our national game not NRL!
