(07-23-2021, 03:49 AM)PaulP link Wrote:https://www.smh.com.au/national/unqualified-and-dishonest-the-experts-who-undermined-confidence-in-astrazeneca-will-cost-australians-lives-20210722-p58c1f.html

Quote:Proof of the strategy appeared to be in the pudding.

(07-23-2021, 04:05 AM)Mav date Wrote:>

OMG, has a saying ever been more mangled? The proof is never in the pudding unless police are investigating whether a poisoned pudding did someone in. The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

(07-23-2021, 12:06 AM)Baggers date Wrote:When I first joined this forum I thought he was an app that would automatically have an opinion on everything, absolutely everything.

(07-23-2021, 04:19 AM)LP link Wrote:@Baggers‍
https://youtu.be/SxBkN5UsPz0?t=3

(07-23-2021, 03:25 AM)Micky0 link Wrote:Binchicken is a snake and has gotten lucky too many times (Ruby princess, etc) and hopefully this is it.

she is doing a good job of saying it's the FEd's fault now and even the language of Chant 'National emergency' - ah ha - so you were both sniping Vic from the sidelines our long lockdown last year and Binchicken even had the audacity to be smug about Vic's success last week or the week before, and now oh it's a national emergency? not your incompetency? nor your no guts to actually do what needed to be done to reign it in before numbers exploded?

HOpefully the good of this will see her and scumo fighting, pair of dirty rats. 

How is anyone still saying Scumo is doing a good job, it is bewildering.  he and binchicken have both ridden a wave of luck and i cant believe people aren't seeing thru their bullcrap.

(07-23-2021, 03:11 AM)LP link Wrote:The problem I have with this #3 perspective is that it is basically stated in ignorance of the flip side of the actions of any vaccine, that is keeping hospitalisation numbers low by reducing / preventing severe disease.

It's a weird sort of an argument, like claiming you can use a gun to stop the enemy killing you, like the cause and event is unidirectional.

It's an argument that you virtually contradict in point #4, but that also is asymmetrical because #4 without explicitly stating it implies the risk from the vaccine and Sars-CoV-2 is equal or proportional, but it isn't.

I think as Mav, Baggers or DJC pointed out before, the correct way to look at this what would be the outcome of 6 Million COVID cases versus 6 Million vaccinations. It's a fair question and a very fair comparison to make, because without vaccination we will eventually get to 6 Million COVID cases based on current Sars-CoV-2 virality, it would only be a matter of time. Should we do that math based on global averages?

Actually, I've heard the #3 argument before, .............. it's a dressed up something like the NRA claiming more guns will mean less crime, where they completely ignore the criminal effects of having more guns available?

(07-23-2021, 04:41 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:25 million double vaccinated people will yield x amount of deaths (currently .009 of 6 million).

(07-23-2021, 03:40 AM)LP link Wrote:Sell your shares, if you're an investor it's yet another failed bet.

Bad luck for those selling boot loads of the fake stuff from gymnasium carparks, getting some comeuppance like the bog roll hoarders! :o