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Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Mav - 06-21-2016
Quote:Trump claimed in December that his numbers "go way up" after tragedies. However, his standing in the polls has dropped in the wake of the mass shooting in Orlando, Florida, earlier this month -- a time when he also faced criticism for making disparaging remarks about a Latino judge.
NBC's polling team attributes the shift in part to independents souring on Trump.
"This week, 36 percent of Independents said they support Clinton and the same number said they support Trump," they write. "In the past, however, this group of voters has generally preferred Trump over Clinton."
New Polls Confirm Hillary Clinton's Decisive Lead Over Donald Trump, Huffington Post.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - LP - 06-22-2016
When all this Trump campaign kicked off there was a lot of speculation that he did not actually want to win, he didn't even have a genuine support team in place.
The allegation was that he was using his ability to garnish public support as a way of feathering his own nest in back-room deals.
It appears some in his own party have started to see through his motives. The way he is now sabotaging his own campaign seems to confirm these very suspicions.
Trump will walk away from this apparent loss richer and more powerful than ever before without any responsibility for wasting the American public's time and money.
Was this a political campaign, or a very clever ponzi scheme?
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Mav - 06-22-2016
Interesting story about the Orlando shooter: Orlando Shooter, Omar Mateen, Seeking Revenge on HIV Lover Claims 'Miguel' On Univision, HuffPost.
'Miguel' said he was one of Mateen's lovers. He said Mateen's other lovers included a Puerto Rican who he later found out is HIV positive. He reacted badly to that news and threatened to pay back the Latinx community.
Hmmm. Seems that you can't just concentrate on someone's name, religion or their words during sieges. Life has a way of throwing curve balls, no matter how black and white (or white and whiter) Trump and Fox News would like to make things.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - madbluboy - 06-23-2016
(06-22-2016, 11:35 PM)Mav link Wrote:Interesting story about the Orlando shooter: Orlando Shooter, Omar Mateen, Seeking Revenge on HIV Lover Claims 'Miguel' On Univision, HuffPost.
'Miguel' said he was one of Mateen's lovers. He said Mateen's other lovers included a Puerto Rican who he later found out is HIV positive. He reacted badly to that news and threatened to pay back the Latinx community.
Hmmm. Seems that you can't just concentrate on someone's name, religion or their words during sieges. Life has a way of throwing curve balls, no matter how black and white (or white and whiter) Trump and Fox News would like to make things.
I'll take his own words for why he did it.
Before on facebook:
Quote:"America and Russia stop bombing the Islamic state,"
Quote:“I pledge my alliance to (ISIS leader) abu bakr al Baghdadi..may Allah accept me,” Mateen wrote in one post during the attack. “The real muslims will never accept the filthy ways of the west” …“You kill innocent women and children by doing us airstrikes..now taste the Islamic state vengeance.”
Quote:''In the next few days you will see attacks from the Islamic state in the usa."
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - LP - 06-23-2016
(06-22-2016, 11:35 PM)Mav link Wrote:Hmmm. Seems that you can't just concentrate on someone's name, religion or their words during sieges. Life has a way of throwing curve balls, no matter how black and white (or white and whiter) Trump and Fox News would like to make things.
It's amazing just how often the media and political perspectives differ from reality, it must be a human trait that people just want to keep on believing not matter how many times the spin gets exposed.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - cookie2 - 06-23-2016
(06-23-2016, 12:01 AM)LP link Wrote:It's amazing just how often the media and political perspectives differ from reality, it must be a human trait that people just want to keep on believing not matter how many times the spin gets exposed.
It's called "brainwashing".
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Mav - 06-23-2016
This scenario is looking much more like Cruising than The Day of the Jackal.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Mav - 06-23-2016
It's funny how the GOP dogwhistling on race gave way to Trump's blatant race-baiting, but now an independent Tennessee candidate for Congress has gone one step further. He has run with what Trump's slogan, 'Make America Great Again', actually means:
![[Image: Make-America-White-Again.jpg]](http://media.salon.com/2016/06/Make-America-White-Again.jpg)
Yes, it's disgusting. But at least he's more honest than Trump.
http://www.salon.com/2016/06/22/trump_inspired_tennessee_candidate_for_congress_erects_make_america_white_again_billboard_draws_boycott/
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - cookie2 - 06-23-2016
If you're interested catch a movie called "The Good Shepherd". It's a few years old now but there's a line in it where one of the establishment say "The Irish, the blacks, the latinos and the polaks (basically the non-Anglos)" are just visitors in the US - they have come and they will go". Don't know about that being true but it's certainly a sentiment popular with certain sections of society there.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Lods - 06-23-2016
Things are a bit chaotic in the US House of reps at the moment
Democrats are staging a sit-in demanding a vote on some of the gun control legislation