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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 07-19-2021

(07-19-2021, 06:50 AM)PaulP date Wrote:It's awful news either way, but I don't think these are the same removalists that travelled between Victoria and NSW. I think they only travelled within NSW.

https://www.2gb.com/breaking-mother-of-covid-positive-removalists-found-dead/

Nine News reporter Laura Tunstall told Luke Grant the COVID-positive brothers, who broke health orders by travelling to regional NSW while knowingly infected, were understood to be isolating with their mother.
Yes, awful news.

Initially Fairfax were claiming they were two of the crew that came to Vic and SA, but they have changed that to Central NSW.

I suppose they may be protecting their ID, as the media would be in breach if they allowed them to be identified for obvious reasons.

Interestingly, they allegedly continued working as removalists even after they had been advised they were COVID positive, I have nothing to add.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - PaulP - 07-19-2021

(07-19-2021, 07:00 AM)LP link Wrote:Yes, awful news.

Initially Fairfax were claiming they were two of the crew that came to Vic and SA, but they have changed that to Central NSW.

I suppose they may be protecting their ID, as the media would be in breach if they allowed them to be identified for obvious reasons.

Interestingly, they allegedly continued working as removalists even after they had been advised they were COVID positive, I have nothing to add.

The removalists in question are claiming language barriers / difficulties. I normally avoid Sky News like the Plague - anyway............

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/coronavirus/sydney-removalists-blame-language-barrier-after-being-accused-of-spreading-covid19-to-the-regions/news-story/eeaf479f44ba54cfec7c7ee0e9cdb916

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Baggers - 07-19-2021

The twin removalists have been identified and pictured in the paper... along with the tragic info that their mother, in her 50s, has been found deceased. She was alleged to be C19 positive and likely passed due to the virus.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 07-19-2021

Interesting that Gladys doesn’t bother to acknowledge deaths and commiserate with the loved ones. Dan Andrews always did. Quite a comparison and the media has noticed.

There have been 5 deaths in NSW so far but you wouldn’t know it. The Health Dept spox deals with the deaths and this means it gets less coverage. Unfortunately for Gladys, the media was never going to allow the death of the removalists’ mother to be swept under the carpet.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - spf - 07-19-2021

(07-19-2021, 12:06 PM)Mav link Wrote:Interesting that Gladys doesn’t bother to acknowledge deaths and commiserate with the loved ones. Dan Andrews always did. Quite a comparison and the media has noticed.

There have been 5 deaths in NSW so far but you wouldn’t know it. The Health Dept spox deals with the deaths and this means it gets less coverage. Unfortunately for Gladys, the media was never going to allow the death of the removalists’ mother to be swept under the carpet.

The news clip I saw showed them acknowledging the death.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - flyboy77 - 07-19-2021

(07-19-2021, 12:06 PM)Mav link Wrote:Interesting that Gladys doesn’t bother to acknowledge deaths and commiserate with the loved ones. Dan Andrews always did. Quite a comparison and the media has noticed.

There have been 5 deaths in NSW so far but you wouldn’t know it. The Health Dept spox deals with the deaths and this means it gets less coverage. Unfortunately for Gladys, the media was never going to allow the death of the removalists’ mother to be swept under the carpet.

Actually, based on averages, there would have been circa 120 deaths in NSW yesterday.

But let's wet the bed over 1 death related to covid.....

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 07-19-2021

The current estimate of global COVID-19 mortality is 6 million to 10 million extra deaths over the last 12 months. Web utilities only offer rough estimates based on algorithms, so you find something like World-o-Meter reporting lower figures like 4.1 million deaths. But the effects of Sars-CoV-2 are not linear, so these estimates can be easily out by 50% to 100%, but they are close enough not to be an order of magnitude out.

In reality, it's a very hard number to find so you only ever find a wide range being reported, and usually coming from NGOs.

Interestingly, because of the wide variance in bureaucratic capabilities in different regions, some countries might not report accurate figures at all, or perhaps lag behind by 12 to 18 months.

Then there are regions that deliberately under or over-report for political purposes.

We've less deaths locally because of the actions of our health officials and political leaders, not that they can't do better, but at least most of them have done something. We are also lucky to be in a region with access to vaccines, which deliver a massive diminishing effect on the death rate.

But as I've mentioned before, the real long term worry is the effects of long COVID-19, and there should be a significant emphasis on finding therapies and treatments for people who suffer debilitating effects. Of course if a sufferer ends up with significant organ damage, there will be no therapy. The question is yet to be answered how much vaccination diminishes long COVID, not enough time has passed.

I've heard it stated that if you look up and down a typical local suburban street, there is between 1 in 10 and 1 in 20 people that for whatever reason cannot be vaccinated, I suppose those who can be vaccinated are their defenders. It's sort of like the inverse of war times, when a percentage left our shores to defend liberty for the rest of us!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - capcom - 07-19-2021

(07-19-2021, 10:01 PM)LP link Wrote:The current estimate of global COVID-19 mortality is 6 million to 10 million extra deaths over the last 12 months.

Thanks to the non reporting from a certainly very detestable country to the north of us

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-20-2021

(07-19-2021, 10:16 PM)capcom link Wrote:Thanks to the non reporting from a certainly very detestable country to the north of us
We just gave Indonesia one Billion dollars to help them with Covid. Same country who knock off all our fish and promote terrorism..
We also provide them with regular foreign aid as well apart from the Covid money..
Happy to help our little  Pacific Island friends, PNG etc but paying protection money to Indonesia is pathetic politics IMHO.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - PaulP - 07-20-2021

https://www.smh.com.au/national/experts-blast-local-research-into-covid-treatments-decry-lack-of-effort-to-understand-vaccine-take-up-20210719-p58aw0.html