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Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 10-29-2024
Musk has a future in energy and space, no need to over think his motives, a 1/4 of 1/2% is worth billion$ a year in trillion dollar industry, and Trump has offered him the keys to the cookie jar!
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 10-29-2024
(10-29-2024, 11:55 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Musk loves China and doesnt want Tariffs is one reason...The tariff stuff is fluff, grass roots Red voters drive a Bedford not Tesla, and more trad Bedford parts come from China, Korea or Taiwan than the equivalent Tesla content.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - PaulP - 10-29-2024
(10-29-2024, 09:30 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Gimme Trump over kents like Jinping, Putin or Jong Un every day of the week and twice on Sundays. The more China is taken out of economic equations the better AFAIC. Farkem.
Mate, you can have him. His ideas and "policies" will soon make it hard to distinguish the US from the countries those leaders represent. Militarized police, harsh crackdown on dissenters, zero freedom of the press, zero regard for the environment, zero regard for worker safety, jobless, decaying urban centres........Yep, looks good.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 10-29-2024
(10-29-2024, 07:21 PM)PaulP date Wrote:Mate, you can have him. His ideas and "policies" will soon make it hard to distinguish the US from the countries those leaders represent. Militarized police, harsh crackdown on dissenters, zero freedom of the press, zero regard for the environment, zero regard for worker safety, jobless, decaying urban centres........Yep, looks good.The irony of Trump in control of the country that so vehemently celebrates Independence Day in not lost on many of us.
First he gave us "Space Force", now he wants to give America Trumptroopers, and yet they vote for him under a banner of freedom! :o
Donald Trump is not the cure for the likes of Xi, Kim or Putin, he is a comorbidity!
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - madbluboy - 10-29-2024
Trump has already been president and the world was fine, actually it was a lot better than it is now.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - tonyo - 10-29-2024
(10-29-2024, 08:56 PM)madbluboy date Wrote:Trump has already been president and the world was fine, actually it was a lot better than it is now.I think the difference is this time he has stated he intends to permanently 'fix' the issues caused by 'the enemy within', by politicising the civil service, judiciary, military and law and order community to the point where they will unquestionably respond to his whims. The fact that he had to 'fire' so many appointees during his first term should make it very clear what happens to anyone who dares to question his authority. He will surround himself with sycophants (think Vance, Steven Cheung) who will happily agree with him that the sky is green.
The moment a world leader no longer listens to those around him unless they agree with him, he becomes a dictator.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Lods - 10-29-2024
A week to go and it appears that the election is too close to call. Much will depend on which candidate can get their supporters to the ballot box.
A lot of the concerns surround what Trump ‘says’ he will do.
The thing is he does about half of what he says he will do, and it also assumes no resistance or pushback.
About half of the states have Democratic governors and their populations reflect that.
The military folk who have worked under him seem to have absolutely no time for him at all.
I think we all have slightly different opinions as to what a second Trump term would look like. Some envisage the storm troopers marching through Time Square. Others see not much change at all. For many Americans it’s a case of a meaner, more cruel, world where minorities are oppressed and life becomes one of constant fear. For others Trump represents a chance of a better lot in life.
It’s hard to know just how things will work out, but I suspect we choose to believe in one path or the other based pretty much on our own life experiences and political bent.
I have concerns. Probably more for the world as a whole, rather than just the USA. I’d be particularly concerned If I was a Ukrainian.
This is Tump’s last shot. It will be his last four-year term. The 22nd amendment states that much.
To change that is a lengthy process that requires massive majorities in both the congress and State legislatures. So ‘dictator for life’ is not possible. Trump can set up a dynasty of sorts with like minded folks like Vance or his children, but does he really have that interest.
Trump isn’t concerned as much about his country as he is about his own personal situation, and that includes dealing with ongoing criminal charges and reducing his golf handicap. He’ll have more time for golf if he can make the criminal stuff go away.
He’s spoken a fair bit about the things he is going to do. If you look at the promises he made before his election in 2016. He made 102 promises. He followed through on just 25, compromised on 23 and broke 54. (politifact.com). So, believe half of what he says he is going to do. Now of course some of those weren’t carried through because of political obstruction, so control of the house and senate is also important. But he had that luxury in 2016.
What will most likely happen is that the reality of a Trump term won’t match the rhetoric and expectations of his more extreme supporters who will become frustrated and disillusioned. Life won’t change much for the majority of folks and for some that will be disappointing given the promises. The same thing happened under the Democrats. They couldn’t make the changes that meant for many that life was perceived as better than it had been under Trump…so here is where we find ourselves.
Someone who should have been consigned to the 'dustbin of history' four years ago is now in with a real shot of becoming President again.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - tonyo - 10-29-2024
(10-29-2024, 10:56 PM)Lods date Wrote:Someone who should have been consigned to the 'dustbin of history' four years ago is now in with a real shot of becoming President again.The GOP clearly do not understand the difference between 'being in power' and 'leadership'.......
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - madbluboy - 10-29-2024
They said all this stuff last time. He was gonna be the next Hitler, imagine if he has the keys to the nukes etc.
That didn't happen. He threatened Kim Jong with fire and fury then they shook hands and little Kim stopped firing rockets near Japan. The world was safer when Trump was in power.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Thryleon - 10-30-2024
(10-29-2024, 11:47 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:They said all this stuff last time. He was gonna be the next Hitler, imagine if he has the keys to the nukes etc.world war 3 might be attributed to him recognising Israel's claims on Jerusalem. Who knows what invokes this sort of panic response we saw 2 years ago. That being said since new Israel was established that place has been a pressure cooker waiting to burst.
That didn't happen. He threatened Kim Jong with fire and fury then they shook hands and little Kim stopped firing rockets near Japan. The world was safer when Trump was in power.
I dont buy the narrative about hamas either. You might have successfully argued that point 30+ years ago, but i'd bet London to a brick you would see people react the same way if it were their country being handed over.