(07-13-2021, 09:56 PM)LP link Wrote:I doubt it means anything but less.

That linked article gives you no baselines, you can't tell if it's a rise, fall or flat.

When the deaths are counted in the many hundreds, for a process that has a relative low completion rate, you aren't going to see a sudden statistical shift in the percentages. If only 1:10 attempts are successful, and my understanding is that is roughly the figure, and there is a drop in deaths by 40 or 50 doesn't that mean by association hundreds of less attempts?

The various groups debating working from office or home are telling us the bulk of employees are happier now they aren't in the office 5 days a week. One large organisation I deal with are telling me productivity is up, the only people unhappy, the ones losing out are the corporate psychopaths who have lost their overview of staff.

I'm not sure what to think, I accept it's way way more complex than our simple analysis can surmise, but the numbers do not lie.

(07-14-2021, 12:55 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Its also worth not trivialising the domestic violence figures.  I remember them state a over 200% increase in domestic violence episodes.

Thats not to condone the behaviour, or to state they are a direct result of lockdowns.

I know of quite a few relationships that were on the verge of breaking down, that the COVID situation caused the eventual break down, some that were strengthened in the face of adversity, and by the by, those that status quo remained.

The kids are going to be the ones we wont know how seriously or badly effected they were for quite some time and not just from the past 1.5 years, but the return to normality, and any PTSD they might suffer simply looking the world in the face.

By contrast it might effect them positively in ways we wont understand in terms of breeding resilience in generations that previously have not faced much adversity (in our society anyway).

(07-14-2021, 01:30 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Sorry, 3 Leos, but I have to pull you up on a little of what you say. I hope I haven't misread what you say... if so, I apologize.

1. That 200% rise in domestic violence is ONLY what is reported... let me assure you that the real figure is much higher. Similar to sexual abuse/violations/rape... much goes unreported. Why? Fear. Fear of retribution, fear of loss of somewhere to live, fear of livelihood, fear of stigma.

2. PTSD is not something that once you become resilient, it is healed or even reduced significantly or gone. PTSD, despite the shallow cures you might hear of, never goes, in fact it often worsens with age - it's about management. It is like a huge growling beast sitting on your shoulder for life. There are far, far better ways to become resilient than through suffering/trauma.

3. Perhaps the term PTSD is so bandied about these days that some of us are becoming immune to its horror/impact. Sheesh, some folks claim PTSD after what I would call 'minor' (but nonetheless traumatic) events - perhaps too easily diagnosed these days. If you lose a leg in a traumatic circumstance, you might very well become 'resilient' out of necessity... but you'll always walk with a limp.

Perhaps we'll meet up at a game one day and I'll communicate to you in person what happened to me. Or you can talk openly with another war vet, ambo person, police person, nurse, doc etc... who has PTSD and you'll learn it is a huge life changer in so many respects.

(07-14-2021, 01:11 AM)Baggers date Wrote:Gobsmacked, stunned, speechless... Rita P and Terry M (HUN opinion writers) have turned on Gladys and SloMo (Prime Minister of NSW).  :o  :o  :  :-X