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Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 10-14-2024
(10-14-2024, 02:19 AM)shawny date Wrote:The US has just ticked over 650k in homelessness. Trumps fault?If you want to talk facts, then you'd know the US homeless figures bottom out in 2016, the year before Trump was elected and have been climbing ever since!
Trump doesn't walk the walk, he's a grifter whispering lies that some willingly want to believe.
PS: The accepted driver of the recent sudden rise in US Homeless rates are certain states that have lifted the COVID related moratorium of evictions, so the driver might not be a Federal controlled issue at all!
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - shawny - 10-14-2024
(10-14-2024, 02:58 AM)LP link Wrote:If you want to talk facts, then you'd know the US homeless figures bottom out in 2016, the year before Trump was elected and have been climbing ever since!
Trump doesn't walk the walk, he's a grifter whispering lies that some willingly want to believe.
PS: The accepted driver of the recent sudden rise in US Homeless rates are certain states that have lifted the COVID related moratorium of evictions, so the driver might not be a Federal controlled issue at all!
Lol
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 10-14-2024
(10-14-2024, 03:47 AM)shawny date Wrote:LolAhh yes, the typical MAGA reply to substantive data or facts. :
Maybe Trump can put a tariff on the data, so the people creating it have to pay! :o
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - PaulP - 10-14-2024
The Bibles Trump is flogging are made in China.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - shawny - 10-14-2024
(10-14-2024, 04:31 AM)LP link Wrote:Ahh yes, the typical MAGA reply to substantive data or facts. :
Maybe Trump can put a tariff on the data, so the people creating it have to pay! :o
Its just that after a while you give up trying to have a balanced discussion with someone as far far left as yourself.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 10-14-2024
(10-14-2024, 05:06 AM)shawny date Wrote:Its just that after a while you give up trying to have a balanced discussionI restrict my balanced discussions to only those that contain facts, it's a problematic stance when discussing Trump given we can only talk about his lies, because pretty much everything he states has a real world not fake counterpoint.
At least we aren't light on subject matter! ;D
Can you think of anything Trump's done or said that wasn't a lie or fake, something hopefully, at least then we can have a balanced chat?
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - ElwoodBlues1 - 10-14-2024
Homeless stats in the USA https://www.security.org/resources/homeless-statistics/
3.1 Million folk(2022 figures) were living in RV's and Vans which wouldnt be in those above figures either and those stats would have increased in 2024. Having a home is becoming a privilege rather than a right in many countries, dont think Trump or Kamala are going to fix the homeless problem in the USA or Albanese or Dutton in Aus.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 10-14-2024
(10-14-2024, 05:52 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Homeless stats in the USA https://www.security.org/resources/homeless-statistics/Yes it's a global problem, except in countries where people just randomly disappear.
The main technical problem with the bulk of the reports seems to be that the figures aren't collected by a Federal authority, but submitted by states that use widely varying methods to generate estimates.
I'd expect them to vastly under-estimated given most surveys are only completed in and around major cities. The recent sudden jump though is explained by the removal of COVID moratoriums, in that regard some of those figures will be coming out of defaulting rent or mortgage cases.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - ElwoodBlues1 - 10-14-2024
(10-14-2024, 06:02 AM)LP link Wrote:Yes it's a global problem, except in countries where people just randomly disappear.Id suggest vastly under reported and for sure its a global problem, you only have to look at Canada which was once at the top of lists for being the best place to live in the world and its also come under pressure for ignoring the homeless crisis.
The main technical problem with the bulk of the reports seems to be that the figures aren't collected by a Federal authority, but submitted by states that use widely varying methods to generate estimates.
I'd expect them to vastly under-estimated given most surveys are only completed in and around major cities. The recent sudden jump though is explained by the removal of COVID moratoriums, in that regard some of those figures will be coming out of defaulting rent or mortgage cases.
https://housingrightscanada.com/canada-is-failing-to-tackle-its-housing-and-homelessness-crisis-and-the-international-community-is-watching/
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 10-14-2024
Interesting the Sheriff that claimed his deputy officers had intercepted an assassin turns out to be a card carrying republican who is lobbying to be pre-selected as the republican candidate for the election of the next state governor.
But get this, the Sheriff was exposed by Fox and competing republican candidates, who broadcast that the FBI had confirmed there was no valid assassination attempt. Seems like the Sheriff is a republican but not Fox's preferred republican.
The whole story kicked off as a beat up by Marjorie Taylor Green who started the freakshow and fear mongering using her online media accounts.