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Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Mav - 06-20-2016
The problem is that he isn't running against Republicans any more. Lindsey Graham said a choice between Trump and Cruz was like choosing between being shot or poisoned. In many ways, Cruz is more of a right-wing wingnut than Trump. Rubio was just as extreme, albeit a little more likeable.
Using the Republican primaries as a guide to the general election is misguided. If a voter wants to vote for a small government conservative who isn't a narcissistic bigot, he or she can vote for the Libertarian candidate. I doubt that Trump will appeal to too many left-wingers.
The other thing is that Trump's vote in the primaries wasn't underestimated by the polls. The polls predicted his success. The notable exception was the Iowa Caucuses where the polls predicted a solid win to Trump but Cruz ended up winning after his team sent around an email that falsely suggested Ben Carson had withdrawn from the race. On the other hand, the nice guy Establishment candidate, Jeb Bush, did just as badly in the polls as in the Primaries and Ben Carson tanked as well. So where is the evidence that he has secret support? Given he has big turnouts at his rallies, it doesn't look as though his supporters are particularly bashful.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - LanceRomance - 06-20-2016
(06-20-2016, 04:40 AM)LP link Wrote:You mean they are bigots and racists but won't publicly admit it?
No. It's a protest vote against the cultural elite.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - cookie2 - 06-20-2016
(06-20-2016, 08:08 AM)LanceRomance link Wrote:No. It's a protest vote against the cultural elite.
And the political elite.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - LanceRomance - 06-20-2016
(06-20-2016, 08:10 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:And the political elite.
exactly.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Lods - 06-20-2016
He's finished...He's fighting a battle on two fronts... against Democrats and Republicans
The Hitler analogy finally has some legitimacy.
You cant win on the Eastern and Western front
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - LanceRomance - 06-20-2016
(06-20-2016, 08:15 AM)Lods link Wrote:He's finished...He's fighting a battle on two fronts... against Democrats and Republicans
The Hitler analogy finally has some legitimacy.
You cant win on the Eastern and Western front
Reckon tbe republicans dont want to win tbe next election?
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Lods - 06-20-2016
They do for a number of reasons (supreme court,senate elections)...But what to do about it?
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - DJC - 06-20-2016
(06-20-2016, 08:18 AM)LanceRomance link Wrote:Reckon tbe republicans dont want to win tbe next election?
They are desperate to win but mucked up badly by allowing Trump to get this far.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Lods - 06-20-2016
(06-20-2016, 08:40 AM)DJC link Wrote:They are desperate to win but mucked up badly by allowing Trump to get this far.
I think its reached the point where they have to run an alternative candidate.
They're not going to win anyway..but at least they provide a candidate that is more truly representative of the party.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - cookie2 - 06-20-2016
(06-20-2016, 08:51 AM)Lods link Wrote:I think its reached the point where they have to run an alternative candidate.
They're not going to win anyway..but at least they provide a candidate that is more truly representative of the party.
They are viewed quite rightly now as serving only the interests of the super-rich elite class and its political servants. Hilary of course can also be classified in that category so it will be a win for the elites whichever way it goes.