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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - ElwoodBlues1 - 11-08-2016
(11-08-2016, 01:53 AM)Pratty link Wrote:James Faulkner is the one I'd play. He is a born Test cricketer IMO, and I said as much a few years ago,
He'll plug up an end when bowling as a medium/fast and bat well (and with grit and intent) at 7 or 8.
Reckon Agar is a special talent and I'd really like to give him a crack, but he needs more top notch numbers. O'Keefe and Holland are other spin options.
Longing for a decent leggie....!!!!
Faulkner behind two genuine quicks would work....not convinced Hazelwood is a No 2 bowler, batters do get a hold of him and he doesnt have the genuine pace to worry good players
on good wickets..
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - shadesy - 11-08-2016
(11-08-2016, 02:07 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Faulkner behind two genuine quicks would work....not convinced Hazelwood is a No 2 bowler, batters do get a hold of him and he doesnt have the genuine pace to worry good players
on good wickets..
Problem is Faulkner is not good enough for a 3rd seamer or bat 6 IMO.
What me need is Handscomb to bat in the top 6 allowing a Faulkner or Marsh to come in at 7 or 8.
A Keeper in the top 6 can give the team the flexibility it needs.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - LP - 11-08-2016
(11-08-2016, 02:03 AM)Bear link Wrote:Lyon even moved to play for NSW, and I still think he is going to get shafted!
Moving to play for NSW won't make you a NSWelshman if they have a local alternative, we've seen that happen time and time again.
Moving to NSW would leave him with only NSWelshman to defend his spot, good luck with that!
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - ElwoodBlues1 - 11-08-2016
(11-08-2016, 02:14 AM)shadesy link Wrote:Problem is Faulkner is not good enough for a 3rd seamer or bat 6 IMO.
What me need is Handscomb to bat in the top 6 allowing a Faulkner or Marsh to come in at 7 or 8.
A Keeper in the top 6 can give the team the flexibility it needs.
Batting at 6...No from me too, reckon his bowling is ok but he needs two very good quicks opening the attack.....
Marsh...one day player only, zero technique, that LBW to Philander in the 1st innings was woeful...bowling is handy only...
Handscomb is a good cricketer with a good technique......prefer my keeper at No 7 though and a bowling allrounder at 8 ie Faulkner.
Not fully convinced about Nevill either...he is no DeKock with the bat ...
Aus have always had this allrounder fetish to find ourselves a Botham to play at No 6...tried for years with Watson to no avail and seem destined to keep trying with M. Marsh..
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - malo - 11-08-2016
(11-08-2016, 02:28 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Aus have always had this allrounder fetish to find ourselves a Botham to play at No 6...tried for years with Watson to no avail and seem destined to keep trying with M. Marsh..
That is the issue....it was re-inforced when Flintoff did the job on the Aussies in 2005 as well. Trouble is, he was an elite fast bowlers who was good enough to bat at #6. We cannot keep trying bit part players who could not get a gig at one or the other. Gilchrist didn't even bat at 6 in his career....and he was the one keeper who could have. But how devastating for the opposition was it for him to listed at #7 !!!
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - shadesy - 11-08-2016
(11-08-2016, 02:28 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Batting at 6...No from me too, reckon his bowling is ok but he needs two very good quicks opening the attack.....
Marsh...one day player only, zero technique, that LBW to Philander in the 1st innings was woeful...bowling is handy only...
Handscomb is a good cricketer with a good technique......prefer my keeper at No 7 though and a bowling allrounder at 8 ie Faulkner.
Not fully convinced about Nevill either...he is no DeKock with the bat ...
Aus have always had this allrounder fetish to find ourselves a Botham to play at No 6...tried for years with Watson to no avail and seem destined to keep trying with M. Marsh..
Sangakarra, DeVillers, Bairstow... get a batsmen Keeper and it gives you flexibility at 7 and 8 IMO.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - Pratty - 11-08-2016
(11-08-2016, 02:14 AM)shadesy link Wrote:Problem is Faulkner is not good enough for a 3rd seamer or bat 6 IMO.
What me need is Handscomb to bat in the top 6 allowing a Faulkner or Marsh to come in at 7 or 8.
A Keeper in the top 6 can give the team the flexibility it needs.
Wouldn't bat Faulkner at 6, though he is not that type anyway.
He's a bowling all-rounder.
Reckon a bowling all-rounder such as Faulkner and a batting all-rounder would be handy.
I had thought of Handscomb to keep/bat at 6 too, but that's a big leap.
This obsession with the all-rounder having to bat at 6 is ridiculous. We are stuck back in the old days.
Can Nevill bat at 6 with support from even 2-3 decent bowling all-rounder types to come in behind him?
Problem could be we get quite thin on for bowling, though we are on struggle street anyway.
Example...
6. P.Nevill / P.Handscomb (wk)
7. M.Stoinis / M.Marsh
8. J.Faulkner
9. M.Starc
10. J.Hazlewood
11. N.Lyon
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - Professer E - 11-08-2016
I like that side, plenty of options plus 1. Blokes that really want it and 2. Surprise factor.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - laj - 11-08-2016
(11-08-2016, 02:14 AM)shadesy link Wrote:Problem is Faulkner is not good enough for a 3rd seamer or bat 6 IMO.
What me need is Handscomb to bat in the top 6 allowing a Faulkner or Marsh to come in at 7 or 8.
A Keeper in the top 6 can give the team the flexibility it needs.
Yes, I can see that too.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - laj - 11-08-2016
(11-08-2016, 02:07 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Faulkner behind two genuine quicks would work....not convinced Hazelwood is a No 2 bowler, batters do get a hold of him and he doesnt have the genuine pace to worry good players
on good wickets..
Hopefully that'll sort by season's end. Cummins would have to have a change of luck at some stage. Changes the whole dynamic.