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Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - Professer E - 02-22-2021
T20 performance yesterday was very average. Stoinis has a nerve bagging out teammates....when did that puffed up gym rat last (or ever?) deliver at an international level? Maxwell gets bagged for inconsistency, but at least he's done something!
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - LP - 02-22-2021
(02-22-2021, 10:37 PM)Professer E date Wrote:T20 performance yesterday was very average. Stoinis has a nerve bagging out teammates....when did that puffed up gym rat last (or ever?) deliver at an international level? Maxwell gets bagged for inconsistency, but at least he's done something!Yesterday's game was all about the anniversary of the Christchurch Quake, as far as I'm concerned it went to script even if the Saffie won the game for NZ.
And that Saffie playing for NZ, yet another consequence of quotas at the top level, like SA can afford to surrender players to other test nations!
I have no problem with quotas at lower levels, domestic and suburban sport, fine, but at elite level you should earn a spot not be rewarded a spot!
I wonder if AFL will eventually have indigenous quotas, perhaps the Filth first based on recent events!
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - Professer E - 02-22-2021
Aren't Indigenous players over represented* in the AFL relative to the percentage of the population?
*note I'm using this term as I don't know the appropriate statistical moniker. It's not a judgement call or anything of that ilk.
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - LP - 02-22-2021
(02-22-2021, 11:30 PM)Professer E date Wrote:Aren't Indigenous players over represented* in the AFL relative to the percentage of the population?Not at the Filth it seems! ;D
*note I'm using this term as I don't know the appropriate statistical moniker. It's not a judgement call or anything of that ilk.
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - DJC - 02-23-2021
(02-22-2021, 10:54 PM)LP link Wrote:Yesterday's game was all about the anniversary of the Christchurch Quake, as far as I'm concerned it went to script even if the Saffie won the game for NZ.
And that Saffie playing for NZ, yet another consequence of quotas at the top level, like SA can afford to surrender players to other test nations!
I have no problem with quotas at lower levels, domestic and suburban sport, fine, but at elite level you should earn a spot not be rewarded a spot!
I wonder if AFL will eventually have indigenous quotas, perhaps the Filth first based on recent events!
Indigenous players are seriously over-represented in the AFL. Quotas would have to be for other ethnic groups
On the other hand, Indigenous players are seriously under-represented in cricket ...
Giving youngsters of all persuasions an equal opportunity and encouragement to take part in sport would be far more effective than any quota system.
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - ElwoodBlues1 - 02-23-2021
(02-22-2021, 10:37 PM)Professer E link Wrote:T20 performance yesterday was very average. Stoinis has a nerve bagging out teammates....when did that puffed up gym rat last (or ever?) deliver at an international level? Maxwell gets bagged for inconsistency, but at least he's done something!Kiwis are very hard to beat at home, lot of their players are unknowns and its an interesting question regarding their foreign legion of players from South Africa/India.
Conway wasnt even a qualified resident when first played for NZ I believe, he had served the three year qualifying period but was still on a Visa, he became a NZ contracted player while on a visa, 100k retainer plus match payments.
Lot of the local players are not happy with the influx of Saffies into domestic cricket, the Saffie comps are of a much higher standard so Saffie players walk into the local teams and are headhunted in some cases due to the quota system in South Africa.
I think the ICC need to look at qualifying periods or we are going to get teams like NZ featuring 50% SA/Indian born players who are the equivalent of Basketball imports...
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - LP - 02-23-2021
(02-23-2021, 01:37 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Lot of the local players are not happy with the influx of Saffies into domestic cricket, the Saffie comps are of a much higher standard so Saffie players walk into the local teams and are headhunted in some cases due to the quota system in South Africa.Yep, players who were just a NAT away from genuinely earning test or ODI selection now find themselves in 23rd place, so they bug out altogether.
That is how quotas work.
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - LP - 02-26-2021
The BCCI is killing the sport, complain about India's pitches and this is what you get, a Test match over in two days on a strip barely suitable for council approval of pedestrian traffic.
Nobody has the guts to reign the BCCI in, because they want the $BCCI, and because if the BCCI get publicly criticised they'll play the racism card. You could write out the script now and get it 99% correct!
They'll kill the sport, because the priority is profit, they'll argue that profit is good for the sport even if the sport ends up unrelated to what we know as the sport of old!
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - ElwoodBlues1 - 02-26-2021
Test over in 2 days in England, the wicket was a spin fest, even part timer Joe Root took 5 for 8 it was that friendly to tweakers.
Think I said previously the Indians would revert to their old ways and create spin nightmare wickets once they were one down in the series. Its farcical and time the rest of the cricket world drew a line in the sand and said we are not going to play games vs these cheats unless they get their act together and prepare decent fair wickets. All countries prepare friendly home town strips to suit their own but this is ridiculous and we almost need neutral pitch inspectors who validate the quality of the wicket before play is allowed.
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - LP - 02-26-2021
(02-26-2021, 01:09 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Test over in 2 days in England, the wicket was a spin fest, even part timer Joe Root took 5 for 8 it was that friendly to tweakers.It was at Narendra Modi Stadium, Ahmedabad
Think I said previously the Indians would revert to their old ways and create spin nightmare wickets once they were one down in the series. Its farcical and time the rest of the cricket world drew a line in the sand and said we are not going to play games vs these cheats unless they get their act together and prepare decent fair wickets. All countries prepare friendly home town strips to suit their own but this is ridiculous and we almost need neutral pitch inspectors who validate the quality of the wicket before play is allowed.
Joe Root was embarrassed to talk about it after the 5 wicket haul!