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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - capcom - 06-30-2021

(06-30-2021, 03:47 AM)Mav link Wrote:People escape because they’re selfish. If they’re infected, they can obtain treatment at their new location and they can wander around to their heart’s content until they need to be treated. That they might infect others is not their problem. They don’t care. That’s pretty apparent from the extent many have gone to in order to avoid quarantine.

People who aren’t selfish when they leave an area with a Covid outbreak would ensure they’re tested to ensure they aren’t infectious and isolate until they’re cleared. They’re not the ones we worry about. It’s the selfish ones who couldn’t give a *#$@ we worry about.

I don't have an argument with any of that [member=122]Mav[/member] .... just like that Bunnings b**ch or others who think rules, let alone human decency don't apply to them.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Macca37 - 06-30-2021

(06-28-2021, 11:26 PM)Baggers link Wrote:Did I stuff up the link, Pauly? Wouldn't be surprised!

Such an important article from 'The Conversation' - the place I now go for truly objective, unbiased and intelligent reporting. Thank you, Pauly.

Thanks Baggers and Paul for the link. A most interesting article.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Gointocarlton - 06-30-2021

These imbecile polies again confusing everyone over AZ for under 60s and it takes soldier to come out and explain it properly (the guy in charge of rolling it out explained in on CH7 news).

ATAGI recommends mRNA Pfizer for under 60s BUT you can go to your GP and have a conversation about having AZ if you want.

The silly slag QLD CHO should be sacked immediately, every expert slamming her..

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - cookie2 - 06-30-2021

What an utter debacle.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - capcom - 06-30-2021

(06-30-2021, 09:31 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:The silly slag QLD CHO should be sacked immediately, every expert slamming her..

But that other fool "Premier Palace" just gave Young the plum job of QLD GG. Both dumbarse hypocrites.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Baggers - 06-30-2021

Disappointing that abounding egos and petty politics and one-ups-manship blind so many pollies and health officers to why they're there - for the people of this country, you flogs.

Mind you, had ScoMo got his priorities right, and acted instead of yapping many, many months ago, Pfizer would have been far more widely administered and available and our population would have a far higher vaccination rate that the abysmal 5% at present... should be closer, with competent pollies, to 60+%!!!

Time for all Premiers, Feds and CHOs to be shoved in a room together, told they're not being let out until they have a united strategy for the benefit of all Aussies and all messages will be consistent with each other. Actually not that difficult but, as I mentioned above, when egos, ideologies and unhealthy competitiveness come into play - c0ckups abound and News Ltd opinion writers have a field day.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-30-2021

Scomo trying to flog the cheaper AstraZ to the U40s because boxes of it are piling up everywhere because no wants it and he didn't order enough Pfizer.
Then wanting to lay the responsibility on GPs to make the call and go against the ATAGI recommendations. You can understand why GPs would be nervous.. If a young person dies on their watch it will be them wearing the responsibility even if Scomos indemnity holds up in court.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - DJC - 06-30-2021

(06-30-2021, 11:30 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Scomo trying to flog the cheaper AstraZ to the U40s because boxes of it are piling up everywhere because no wants it and he didn't order enough Pfizer.
Then wanting to lay the responsibility on GPs to make the call and go against the ATAGI recommendations. You can understand why GPs would be nervous.. If a young person dies on their watch it will be them wearing the responsibility even if Scomos indemnity holds up in court.

GPs want indemnity and Scotty jumped the gun before announcing his decision ... and falsely implying that it was a national cabinet decision.

Surely, it’s not too hard to put appropriate measures in place and develop a national consensus to get people vaccinated ASAP.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 07-01-2021

The hard data shows the real world risk is very very low, if the u40s don't vaccinate and get COVID-19, more of them will die from COVID-19 or suffer seriously debilitating long term health effects than the risk of sever complication from a vaccine side-effect.

If a million people get vaccinated, one might die from a directly attributed side-effect of any vaccine. If a million people do not get vaccinated, only about 30 have to get COVID-19 for the risk of one person dying to be equally the same as the one million who got vaccinations! The math puts the political and social media debate to shame, it is a non-contest, vaccines (any vaccine) will save lives. That doesn't even consider the fact that the Sars-CoV-2 is highly contagious, and the likelihood of more than just 30 unvaccinated individuals getting infected is very high. In the UK for every one million unvaccinated / vaccinated individuals they average at the moment about 70,000 infections, with that number set to rise under the new variant some are predicting a 300% increase. The only thing stopping the UK death rate soaring, in fact it is plummeting, is that they have a large percentage of the UK population already vaccinated with at least one dose.

Arguing against using the available vaccines is a bit like a passivist arguing not to attack because they will shoot us, when the enemy is Putin's KGB hit squad and they already have a gun cocked and pointed at your forehead! The anti-vaxxers are like the French in the war, don't shoot I surrender!

Cynics will argue those numbers do not apply here in Oz, but that is a symptom of our lockdowns not a symptom of the virus or vaccinations. At the moment we do not have 70,000 infections per-million because of the lockdowns. If we do lose control of the outbreak, we will have hundreds per million dying from COVID-19 illness.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 07-01-2021

(06-30-2021, 11:30 PM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Scomo trying to flog the cheaper AstraZ to the U40s because boxes of it are piling up everywhere because no wants it and he didn't order enough Pfizer.

They've ordered many times what they need, they can keep ordering as much as they like but they aren't being supplied, do not get sucked in by the media, Oz is not a priority for Pfizer we are on the long long delivery lead-time.

It's easy to shout wait for the Pfizer, but the reality is we'll have people waiting until they are dead or debilitated.