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Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - LP - 10-22-2022

(10-22-2022, 03:29 AM)madbluboy date Wrote:Gina Rinehart has pulled the sponsorship of the netball after the backlash.
The lines on the netball court use titanium oxide/dioxide coming out of Rinehart's mines, some of the pigments in the uniforms, make-up and hair dyes also are by-products of wider mining operations.

The stadium they play in is quite possibly held up by materials, steel or masonry components coming out of Rinehart mines. Many of them drove to the venue in vehicles made using alloys and elements out of Rinehart mines, including the rare earths used to power the electric vehicles.

The playing surface is polished using aluminium, zirconium or silcate oxides and carbides some of which come out of Rinehart mines.

Some of them eat food cooked on gas from Rienhart drilling rigs, others may claim they cook on induction from Solar PV, probably Solar PV partially made with Rinehart Rare Earths,

The list goes on and on and on!

The hypocrisy is palpable!


Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - Gointocarlton - 10-22-2022

(10-22-2022, 08:44 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Yep 15 million is a lot of money to lose based initially on  comments from a old ignorant zillionaire from the past.
I would have worked with Hancock to change the image of the company, sponsor indigenous netballers/teams and
provide employment/study pathways etc.
No one is a winner now.....
I would have told the player (irrespective of race, colour or creed) to GAGF'd. Perhaps that's why Im no CEO and/or NA is $15M poorer.


Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - Gointocarlton - 10-23-2022

Lidia Thorpe, what a piece work. I pride myself in being a fairly good judge of character and I always thought she was a despicable human being as far back as her local council days. I have been proven correct. Off you go Lidia, I'm sure there's a few OMG's that have some openings for you.


Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - Gointocarlton - 10-23-2022

By the way, I noticed Hancock went BANG! with a subsequent statement which hit NA and sportspeople wanting to make political statements right between the eyes.
UPDATE
This is what happens when sports people try and be smart, Gina aint playing scrabble here sunshsine.

From the HS

Indigenous netball star Donnell Wallam was reportedly left ‘distressed’ and ‘devastated’ by Hancock Prospecting’s bombshell decision to pull its proposed $15m of funding from the sport on Saturday.

Wallam was at the centre of player pushback to the proposed sponsorship from Gina Rinehart’s mining company, with reports she was uncomfortable with wearing the Hancock Prospecting logo on her uniform for her Diamonds debut against England on Wednesday night.

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The 28-year-old’s concerns revolve around comments made by Rinehart’s father Lang Hancock in the 1980s that sterilisation should be used to solve ‘the Aboriginal problem’.

Gina Rinehart has never made any public comments on her late father’s views.

However in the face of intense pressure, Wallam decided on Friday she would wear the logo on her uniform for her international debut.

In the end all Wallam’s deliberations and soul-searching were in vain as Hancock Prospecting withdrew its funding a day after the goal shooter made it clear she would wear the logo.




Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - LP - 10-24-2022

(10-23-2022, 11:17 PM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:In the end all Wallam’s deliberations and soul-searching were in vain as Hancock Prospecting withdrew its funding a day after the goal shooter made it clear she would wear the logo.
@Gointocarlton Is Wallam yet another Lydia Thorpe / Greens road kill?

They are insidious politicians, whispering in ears, rally the crowds, lighting torches and loading missiles, then opening the gates before quickly disappearing into the background mist! There are more carcasses left in their wake than a WA Road Train!

When I see Thorpe in the media now, I immediately hear a modified rendition of the Barmy Army's Waugh / Warnie Bookie song!

Thorpe is a poli
She wears a two faced hat
And when she saw the public's tax
She said "I'm having that!"
She shared it out with Bandty
They went and had some beers
But when the cops saw Marty boy
She stuffed her long career!



Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - Gointocarlton - 10-24-2022

(10-24-2022, 12:44 AM)LP link Wrote:@Gointocarlton Is Wallam yet another Lydia Thorpe / Greens road kill?

They are insidious politicians, whispering in ears, rally the crowds, lighting torches and loading missiles, then opening the gates before quickly disappearing into the background mist! There are more carcasses left in their wake than a WA Road Train!

When I see Thorpe in the media now, I immediately hear a modified rendition of the Barmy Army's Waugh / Warnie Bookie song!

Thorpe is a poli
She wears a two faced hat
And when she saw the public's tax
She said "I'm having that!"
She shared it out with Bandty
They went and had some beers
But when the cops saw Marty boy
She stuffed her long career!
I dont know the netball player from a bar of soap but I'll lay London to a Brick she is nothing like that parasite Thorpe. Misguided maybe, but not the piece of work Thorpe is.


Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - LP - 10-24-2022

(10-24-2022, 01:51 AM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:I dont know the netball player from a bar of soap but I'll lay London to a Brick she is nothing like that parasite Thorpe. Misguided maybe, but not the piece of work Thorpe is.
The kid Wallam is just a social media puppet, egged on by people who have a political barrow to push, and in the process she has inadvertently screwed over all her mates!

Just like footballers, pro-netballers do not have to be brain surgeons, the first lesson they should all be taught is to keep their mouth shut in public forums!



Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - PaulP - 10-24-2022

I'm not really a fan of dumping on someone like Wallam. We're all compromised individuals, enmeshed as we are in various exploitative structures, be they environmental, political, social, or economic. You can't really expect folks to live in a cave simply to eliminate all compromises. This seems like a variation of the False Dilemma logical fallacy.

Sportspeople who are part of a team or sport that accepts commercial sponsorship are more conspicuously compromised than most. One could argue such sports sold their soul a long time ago. That doesn't mean that such sportspeople should simply shut up and say nothing. The optics of the Wallam situation aren't great. I wish she hadn't back flipped.


Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - DJC - 10-24-2022

(10-22-2022, 08:47 AM)LP link Wrote:The lines on the netball court use titanium oxide/dioxide coming out of Rinehart's mines, some of the pigments in the uniforms, make-up and hair dyes also are by-products of wider mining operations.

The stadium they play in is quite possibly held up by materials, steel or masonry components coming out of Rinehart mines. Many of them drove to the venue in vehicles made using alloys and elements out of Rinehart mines, including the rare earths used to power the electric vehicles.

The playing surface is polished using aluminium, zirconium or silcate oxides and carbides some of which come out of Rinehart mines.

Some of them eat food cooked on gas from Rienhart drilling rigs, others may claim they cook on induction from Solar PV, probably Solar PV partially made with Rinehart Rare Earths,

The list goes on and on and on!

The hypocrisy is palpable!

You've missed the point completely  :Smile

Lang Hancock advocated the sterilisation of people of mixed Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal ancestry.  Despite countless opportunities, Gina Rinehart has never expressed an opinion on her father's belief.  In that context, Donnell Wallam felt uncomfortable about wearing the Hancock Prospecting logo and asked if the logo could be removed from her Diamonds kit .  Her teammates supported her but at no time raised environmental issues or climate change concerns and, in fact, expressed their support for the sponsorship deal.


Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - Gointocarlton - 10-24-2022

(10-24-2022, 01:57 AM)LP link Wrote:The kid Wallam is just a social media puppet, egged on by people who have a political barrow to push, and in the process she has inadvertently screwed over all her mates!

Just like footballers, pro-netballers do not have to be brain surgeons, the first lesson they should all be taught is to keep their mouth shut in public forums!
Ill beg to differ that she screwed over her team mates. She asked a question about permission to not wear an emblem and they all jumped on the woke bandwagon like an angry mob with no thought or consideration whatsoever of the consequences. Wallam had decided to wear it but it was too late. This means she could have been convinced earlier if her team mates and management all sat down like adults and discussed the ramifications, instead the imbeciles decided to play Poker with a Billionaire and lost their pants. Suck crap. All power to Gina and Hanckock, more people like her need to stand up to the idiots who are totally clueless and need to be educated about what is going on in the real world.
PS I said to my kids just yesterday, I am hating the world my grandkids (if O am lucky enough to have any) and their grandkids are going to have to live in. This nonsense is an example of why.