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Re: Reset Rants - Thryleon - 05-09-2018
The Hawks and us are incomparable IMHO.
They have enough senior leaders around to fill the void. We lose two mature players and we lose three hundred games experience minimum and replace them with underdone skinny kids who can't play four quarters.
Re: Reset Rants - Jack Burton - 05-09-2018
(05-09-2018, 10:15 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Reigning B&F doesnt mean much in a bottom club, yep I am fully aware of what Hawthorn got for those two and S. Mitchell...nada....moving them on was about rebuilding the midfield with T.Mitchell and OMeara not worrying about the returns for Hodge and Lewis.If we've got genuine gun mids like Mitchell and O'Meara lined up the yep. ok, but I can't see any gun mids wanting to come to Carlton for 3 or 4 years of bottom 4-6 finishes
Sure I said I would like decent return for Murphy and be reluctant to move him on without good compo but the more I think about it and what Hawthorn did maybe you just have to accept the AFL compo pick what ever it is and stick to your plans like the Hawks did....they obviously had T. Mitchell lined up 12 months earlier and also must have been very sure that they could get Omeara over the line too...
Re: Reset Rants - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-09-2018
(05-09-2018, 12:41 PM)Jack Burton link Wrote:If we've got genuine gun mids like Mitchell and O'Meara lined up the yep. ok, but I can't see any gun mids wanting to come to Carlton for 3 or 4 years of bottom 4-6 finishes
Fair point about gun mids although I expect another attempt at Kelly, Shiel...
Re: Reset Rants - flyboy77 - 05-09-2018
(05-09-2018, 01:54 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Fair point about gun mids although I expect another attempt at Kelly, Shiel...
I suspect one or both are in the bag.....
Re: Reset Rants - Baggers - 05-09-2018
(05-09-2018, 01:59 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:I suspect one or both are in the bag.....
SOSs track record at getting who is wants is pretty bad, (first preference for our club... Freddie the blind miner could have done the job at GWS), prepare yourself for other GWS steak knives or cast offs from elsewhere.
Re: Reset Rants - flyboy77 - 05-09-2018
(05-09-2018, 10:23 PM)Baggers link Wrote:SOSs track record at getting who is wants (first preference) is pretty bad, prepare yourself for other GWS steak knives or cast offs from elsewhere.
I'm listening. Tell me who he went hard at and missed - other than blokes who stayed for a couple more years eg Kelly, Hopper?
Tomlinson?
Re: Reset Rants - malo - 05-09-2018
(05-09-2018, 10:25 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:I'm listening. Tell me who he went hard at and missed - other than blokes who stayed for a couple more years eg Kelly, Hopper?
Tomlinson?
Tomlinson we had in the bag....until GWS reneged at the last minute (literally). No much SOS could do there.
Re: Reset Rants - LP - 05-09-2018
(05-09-2018, 10:25 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:I'm listening. Tell me who he went hard at and missed - other than blokes who stayed for a couple more years eg Kelly, Hopper?
Tomlinson?
Ignoring the blokes who stayed put because you never genuinely know if they have the intent to move, since SOS has arrived we are alleged to have chased the additional following players who moved clubs;
Caddy
Rockliff
Lever
Cameron
Smith
Prestia
O'Meara
Dixon
Treloar
If you want a bigger fish that list is a bit sad, because the club keep telling us we are going to land one! Based on our history you would have to say we are "Cheap Ar5e Fishing Charters!" All promise and no delivery!
I'm not convinced we need to land one, or that our publicly announced strategy actually fits our observed actions, it may be all a smokescreen just to test the market.
Even when we had the Superbait in the water, we got value for money not overs and not unders. I'll be impressed when we can land a whoppa on an earthworm!
I feel more than a Tom Lynch Tuna, we need a F50 version of the ACoS Kingfish!
Re: Reset Rants - Baggers - 05-10-2018
There was a time when we went after our man, we got him. Much like the Dawks and a few others do today... we were told we'd land a marquee player last year... tumbleweeds. Regardless of whether our targets stay at their club or change clubs, we've notched up plenty of failures in the past couple of years (see the Spotted Ones list.. and there's a couple you could add to that list). Either SOS is on the nose, or we are or both.
Re: Reset Rants - PaulP - 05-10-2018
I thought we were reasonably serious about Saad and Devon Smith.