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Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? - Thryleon - 05-18-2023
(05-18-2023, 12:49 AM)laj link Wrote:We were playing well enough to beat anyone at that stage, and often did with half a side of injuries. Give Harry a run in the ruck. Running around the ground, doing what he likes will help his confidence.
Thing is this is something he is already half doing. Against the bulldogs he got 10 marks, 2 of them were inside 50. He is doing the around the ground marking for a ruck.
What I am trying to attempt is a bit of shock factor. Harry out, might jag us a win where an opponent isnt expecting it.
TDK vs Pittonet means that we will change the centre contests enough to unsettle opposition who are expecting us to do one thing. TDK also is more proficient as a forward than Pitto, and will likely be a harder match up around the ground.
The side effect is that Harry gets to go practise his set shock kicking in the VFL where he might learn a bit more about it in a game situation than simply watching his form suffer more and more, and our whole side to go with it. It also sends a message that the VFL is a place our players can work on their form, and skills and then carry it back into the AFL.
The collingwood magic elixir isnt magic. They use the VFL as a proving ground and the result is that players do their utmost to get into the ones and stay there.
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? - LP - 05-18-2023
Fans are too focussed on the Harry, SoJ, Cripps or Charlie missed set shots, that focus creates a smokescreen for the incredibly poor ball use that is happening further up the field. A big part of the poor goal kicking is the repeated leads that players get burned on, too many wasted efforts means wobbly legs and racing heartbeats, which is not conducive to accurate kicking, then a miss adds further wasted effort. A very nasty feedback loop.
Wasted efforts are wasted energy, and that also plays out at the end of the game when we've had a big chunk of the play for little return and have nothing left to give.
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? - madbluboy - 05-18-2023
We have had 16 wins under Voss. TDK has played in 14 of them.
He missed the West Coast game this year and the Port game early last year.
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? - LP - 05-18-2023
(05-18-2023, 07:15 AM)madbluboy date Wrote:We have had 16 wins under Voss. TDK has played in 14 of them.When TDK is up and about the kid adds run, it's something we desperately lack.
He missed the West Coast game this year and the Port game early last year.
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? - WASurfer - 05-18-2023
Might depend a bit this week if Pies name Cameron. Otherwise for them it's Cox and Johnson as backup. Young probably needed down back when Cox rests so TDK might not be needed. But I'd be tempted to play him this week as another forward option.
From memory in this same game last year, McKay was already out injured and Charlie kicked 5 and gave Moore the runaround. I think Pies are still missing Frampton as well so we could stretch them this week.
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? - LP - 05-18-2023
If I recall correctly we had a narrow loss after Weiters was injured in this game last year, and he missed next 4 or 5 weeks.
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? - WASurfer - 05-18-2023
Yep LP.....Weitering went off midway through the first quarter and we were already missing players that day including Harry, Pitto, McGovern.
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? - kruddler - 05-18-2023
(05-18-2023, 07:15 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:We have had 16 wins under Voss. TDK has played in 14 of them.
He missed the West Coast game this year and the Port game early last year.
Here we go again....cause and correlation.
You know who else has played in 14 of them.
Lachie O'brien.... but we don't hear anyone calling for his return do we.
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? - northernblue - 05-18-2023
TDK “The Talisman”
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? - madbluboy - 05-18-2023
(05-18-2023, 10:17 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Here we go again....cause and correlation.
You know who else has played in 14 of them.
Lachie O'brien.... but we don't hear anyone calling for his return do we.
By what measure are we better with Pittonet rucking alone?