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Re: JLT game 3 - crashlander - 03-17-2017
(03-17-2017, 04:33 AM)LP link Wrote:I think Jones work rate exceeds the other and by some margin, his problem is he just doesn't get enough of the footy.His big problem in game 2 was that we couldn't get the ball near him. He showed that he was 'on' with that great leap and mark. But he didn't have a decent opportunity again that day. He even ended up in the ruck when Korchek needed a rest.
I worry about Korchek because his stamina base is so low compared to rucks born to the game. He runs out of gas and requires times on the bench. Guys like Kreuzer may not have the height or the spring, but they don't run out of juice in 10 minutes.
Re: JLT game 3 - Lods - 03-17-2017
(03-17-2017, 05:10 AM)crashlander link Wrote:His big problem in game 2 was that we couldn't get the ball near him. He showed that he was 'on' with that great leap and mark. But he didn't have a decent opportunity again that day. He even ended up in the ruck when Korchek needed a rest.
Why is that though?...Is it because he gets lost in traffic or does he work hard find space and get overlooked and/or suffer from poor delivery.
Re: JLT game 3 - DJC - 03-17-2017
(03-17-2017, 05:18 AM)Lods link Wrote:Why is that though?...Is it because he gets lost in traffic or does he work hard find space and get overlooked and/or suffer from poor delivery.
Jones seems to end up next to our other key forward quite often and that has led to some comical mix ups with Casboult.
I think that part of the problem is that our tall forwards don't have running patterns to create space and lose their defender (as Kreuzer did on one occasion against Freo). I'm not sure whether that's due to a lack of footy nous, the work in progress forward line or a combination.
Re: JLT game 3 - Professer E - 03-17-2017
I've mentioned thus before. Jones always ran to where Henderson was, clogging Hendersons space with an extra defender. He just doesn't run to smart places where he can get the ball in space and/or have a chance of scoring. Basically has no idea of leading patterns etc.
Re: JLT game 3 - shawny - 03-17-2017
(03-17-2017, 08:39 AM)Professer E link Wrote:I've mentioned thus before. Jones always ran to where Henderson was, clogging Hendersons space with an extra defender. He just doesn't run to smart places where he can get the ball in space and/or have a chance of scoring. Basically has no idea of leading patterns etc.
Basically has no idea full stop.
Re: JLT game 3 - blueray - 03-17-2017
I read alot about Weitering and where he is best suited but I think the real issue is where do we play Charlie Curnow. From the games I have seen, he is a natural new age midfielder that is big bodied and very Bont like. Is smart in close and handy on the outside. From what I hear, he has a great tank so I expect more midfield time this year. He'll lose form up forward as there will be limited entries into the 50. What are your thoughts?
Re: JLT game 3 - kruddler - 03-17-2017
(03-17-2017, 09:12 PM)blueray link Wrote:I read alot about Weitering and where he is best suited but I think the real issue is where do we play Charlie Curnow. From the games I have seen, he is a natural new age midfielder that is big bodied and very Bont like. Is smart in close and handy on the outside. From what I hear, he has a great tank so I expect more midfield time this year. He'll lose form up forward as there will be limited entries into the 50. What are your thoughts?
I dubbed him Curnowfides very early on and part of the reason for that is he is very much in the same mould. Big kid who can run, jump and mark. Broad shoulders. Has a knack of doing things a little bit different to normal.
For the same reasons, he will play like Kouta did early on, everywhere. On a wing early on, with the ability to move to where the team is lacking.
Curnowfides will kick goals. He will take marks. He will run, carry, chase and tackle.
Where should he play? High half forward / wing while resting closer to goals.
Re: JLT game 3 - LP - 03-18-2017
(03-17-2017, 09:54 PM)kruddler link Wrote:I dubbed him Curnowfides very early on and part of the reason for that is he is very much in the same mould. Big kid who can run, jump and mark. Broad shoulders. Has a knack of doing things a little bit different to normal.
For the same reasons, he will play like Kouta did early on, everywhere. On a wing early on, with the ability to move to where the team is lacking.
Curnowfides will kick goals. He will take marks. He will run, carry, chase and tackle.
Where should he play? High half forward / wing while resting closer to goals.
He certainly had elite aerobic capacity prior to his problems, if he's 100% over the effects of his illness he should be our version of Fraser Gehrig in much the same way Gehrig ran a wing early on in his Wet Toast days.
Re: JLT game 3 - LoveNavy - 03-18-2017
@blueray
Great question.
If Charlie is fully healthy, I think he'll mainly play fwd with some time on the wing, and graduated exposure in the middle. As our fwd options increase (big H, Kerr and the like), he may well become crippa's partner in crime, resting fwd as a very dangerous option.
Re: JLT game 3 - DJC - 03-18-2017
(03-17-2017, 09:12 PM)blueray link Wrote:I read alot about Weitering and where he is best suited but I think the real issue is where do we play Charlie Curnow. From the games I have seen, he is a natural new age midfielder that is big bodied and very Bont like. Is smart in close and handy on the outside. From what I hear, he has a great tank so I expect more midfield time this year. He'll lose form up forward as there will be limited entries into the 50. What are your thoughts?
I imagine folk may be a little over my references to the chat I had with Ed Curnow at this time last year but I think that it's worth repeating Ed's assessment of his little brother. Ed said that Charlie is an elite mark and that is how he will make his name as an AFL footballer. We have seen a little of that already; Charlie reads the flight of the ball well, makes good position, has long arms and very sticky fingers.
I think that he is destined to play as a marking forward, but perhaps not as a KPF. He will also be called on to provide a marking option around the ground and, as he learns more about the game at AFL level, to rack up intercept marks.
He was part of the midfield rotation last season and in the JLT games and I think that he has shown enough to suggest that he will be a regular midfielder, but for limited times. I expect to see him spending more time in a role similar to that of Gunston.
For the record, I think that comparing Charlie with Anthony Koutoufides is a fatuous exercise and more than a little reminiscent of the inane comparisons of Tommy Bell with the great man. Of course, that's just my opinion ...